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#1 Posted : 03 July 2010 09:58:56

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As I was adding the topics to the Index it was becoming clear there are certain area's that could do with more information, more in the lines of stains, waxes ect

Maybe you could come up with a topics that will be relevant to the whole build as opposed to a small part for example the Launch, I dont know, just putting the feelers out. BigGrin

An idea from me, I was going to knock up a small section of planking and show the differences in Danish Oil, Beeswax and Stain, this would also incorporate the different ways to plank decks, different systems they used, 3 or 4 butt shift system.

Another idea would to be a demo (pictures) of deck chalking, from cotton to pencil or black markers, side by side to show comparison.

I think we will soon be needing this with the lower decks.

What's your ideas?
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Hi Colin

If you have the time I'm sure it would not be wasted because any tips supported by photos are going to be useful at some stage. The problem always seems to be finding these again, your indexing helps enormously but as you say it needs to be sticky.

It seems a pity that DeAgostini (Admin take note) don't seem to be developing their 'tutorials' pages. I submitted the launch pdf sometime ago and after three follow-up e-mails they acknowledged receipt but it still hasn't appeared on the website.

I for one will look forward to your caulking demo, we can then make our minds up on which technique to use.

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#3 Posted : 03 July 2010 10:22:20

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Morning Mike

Yep, pictures will go along with what I had in mind, I dont know if the Danish Oil would come up well in pictures but worth a try eh.

I'll see what I can come up with today to make a start.

But I'm really excited about the hair braider rope walk thingy, to me that looks like it could work and again a simple selection of ideas to go along with it. Well done Magpie, the video was good as well.

So maybe these to start with...

1. Stains & Waxes

2. Deck Chalking

3. Simple Rope Making


Just had an idea, regarding the stickey's and Index of Topics (otherwise know as how to's) what about setting up a simple blog, our blog, used by all regular posters, not to take anything away from this great forum but an addition to it. It just poped into me 'ead, I can pop out again so thought best to write it here.
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#4 Posted : 03 July 2010 10:23:43

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An excellent plan Colin.

I am rather fond of the way we tend to concentrate on each specific part of the build though (the number and quality of the topics on the launch build being a good example).

Having said that; there is certainly room for task specific techniques to be placed in an easy to find place.
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#5 Posted : 03 July 2010 10:49:35

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Perhaps a tutorial or tips of some kind on masking off for painting.
Reason for this,having spent hours & hours rescuing my launch & getting it to look smooth & unblemished & using several thin coats of white on hull which I let harden off completely for a week before attempting the ochre stripe,when I removed the low tack masking tape(used by pin stripers)it has taken chunks out of the white,in some places right down to the wood Cursing
Although I have touched it up to a reasonable standard I have ordered another issue 6 to make one that I am happy with straight away(avoiding my previous mistakes,it may be useful to have a paint expert demonstrate the right way of doing things as well as the right materials.
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#6 Posted : 03 July 2010 10:58:10

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That is exactly what happened to me..boy, was it frustrating..Crying
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Maybe Stedders could help with that one, I've not painted any of my ship so I could not offer help on that one, sorry fellas.

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I think it was Tomick who recommended Tamiya Masking Tape from guess where!! (Cornwall Boats) I ordered the 6mm width. I found that as long as you firmly pressed the tape onto the surface my first time efforts produced an excellent line. There were a couple of spots near the bows where the tape had not quite stuck and these I touched up with a fine brush. I had no problem with pealing off BUT I did leave the paint a full 24 hours before I did the next colour!

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#9 Posted : 03 July 2010 11:10:20

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Blink not an expert by any means but i would use Tamiya masking tape
got something to do with the tackiness of the tape
sounds like your tape was on for too long tackiness acting like a glue when removing
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I have been using the Tamiya masking tape for years. As long as it is pushed down firmly onto the model (I use a split and rounded lolly stick to get the difficult areas), it has always peeled away leaving a perfect line, and I left some for a week once and it was still fine!!BigGrin I have even used it for masking a pattern on the boys bikes and motor bike tanks using 2 pack paint and it was still great!Cool BigGrin
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Definitely tamiya tape..BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin
I use it on all my models. Doesn't remove any paint. even if it was only painted an hour earlier.(not recommended though).
The tack on it is just right and you get minimal bleed under the tape if any at all.


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Thanks for your efforts Colin they are appreciated..as for masking tape I go with Magpie and others... I would prefer not to use Big Brands but Tamiya works
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#13 Posted : 03 July 2010 13:13:29

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Well there's a tut for ya, someone make a short tut on what is the best tape to use for masking, I dont have any Tamiya tape so can't do it, but take some pics a little text and its sorted.
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The tape I used is very low tack...its used by pin stripers for doing all the fancy artwork on cars etc,I also took the precaution of running it over some material to make it even less tacky.What is annoying is the fact that it didn't dameage the black or the ochre,just the white....very frustrating!!
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Dontshootme wrote:
Perhaps a tutorial or tips of some kind on masking off for painting.
Reason for this,having spent hours & hours rescuing my launch & getting it to look smooth & unblemished & using several thin coats of white on hull which I let harden off completely for a week before attempting the ochre stripe,when I removed the low tack masking tape(used by pin stripers)it has taken chunks out of the white,in some places right down to the wood Cursing
Although I have touched it up to a reasonable standard I have ordered another issue 6 to make one that I am happy with straight away(avoiding my previous mistakes,it may be useful to have a paint expert demonstrate the right way of doing things as well as the right materials.


Ive used making tape for years to do water-lines and small areas and the best that Ive found is Tamiya, though it is expensive around £3.99 a roll Ive never had any bleed through, or paint taken of at the most inconvenient time its low tack as well and you can get it in all sizes from 1mm through to 20mm most model shops stock it as its a brand leader
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