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Hi All, Just purchased what looks like a mini kit (142mm length) A Heller kit of L`Occident, a 19th Century vessel that sailed and steamed the Atlantic. A crossover vessel between sail and steam, the L`Occident had sails and a midships paddle driven by steam. See Pic:  Now my intentions are to build this kit (approx 32 pieces), but replace things like deck and paddles with wood, that said I have also found web write-ups that have enhanced the sails, rigging,etc. So we`ll have to see what happens when it arrives! One other idea is a complete scale upgrade, from the original 1:400 to maybe 1:200 or if my confidence doesn`t get too bashed by taking a leap too far, even 1:100  . Will have to wait and see what lands on the doorstep. Cost at this point, £2.99 + £3.95 p+p (1st class signed, not my choice) Will post some pics when it arrives. Any ideas/critique welcome. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Nice little kit Del Rather you than me with rigging this though at 400 scale! I take it you are not going to replace the shrouds and ratlines with real thread Steve
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stevie_o wrote:Nice little kit Del Rather you than me with rigging this though at 400 scale! I take it you are not going to replace the shrouds and ratlines with real thread Steve Hi Steve, You guess right mate not at 1:400, but 1;100 or 1;200 then we`ll wait and see what the doctor orders.  Most probably VALIUM !! Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Looks a nice little kit Derek, not one I would take on so best of luck with the build.... will be checking in from time to time.....
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Alan
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Gandale wrote:Looks a nice little kit Derek, not one I would take on so best of luck with the build.... will be checking in from time to time.....
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Alan
Cheers Alan, This is just an infil, like the cannon dio which is nearing it`s end. Hence the purchase, could be fun though Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Derek. Nice looking kit. You might get away with using a thin cotten for the rigging Lines. Look forward to seeing your progress Ian. Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood. Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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ian smith wrote:Hi Derek. Nice looking kit. You might get away with using a thin cotten for the rigging Lines. Look forward to seeing your progress Ian. Hi Ian, Thanks for taking a look. I fear it would have to be mighty thin cotton, but am seriously thinking of upgrading the scale for a scratch build. Kit should arrive tomorrow, so will take a look at the contents and then give it some thought. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Derek. Look forward to seeeing which way you go. will be an intresting build to watch if you scratch build it. Ian Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood. Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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ian smith wrote:Hi Derek. Look forward to seeeing which way you go. will be an intresting build to watch if you scratch build it. Ian Hi Ian, Looks like it`s gonna be a scale increase scratch build and the original kit as well. Now that said, I`ve got a lot of work to do before that can happen. So here`s a pic below of one side of the hull.(with measure) I will put up a proper build log if it kicks off, even if in the end it don`t work, but will still get the original kit out. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) delboy271155 attached the following image(s): COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Del, Wow, this is tiny  Just out of interest, how will you go about up-scaling a plastic kit without plans? Steve
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stevie_o wrote:Hi Del, Wow, this is tiny  Just out of interest, how will you go about up-scaling a plastic kit without plans? Steve Hi Steve, Well that`s issue number one. I`ve got a vernier gauge and thought  , measure parts and double the size from 1:400 into 1:200 then if that works double the size again to turn 1:200 into 1:100. Now that amount of thinking in one day has made my head hurt. So, I`m sure that if that theory won`t work, then I won`t have to wait too long before somebody tells me. It may be that thinking could be my downfall, but we`ll see how it pans out eh!! Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Derek, Perhaps buying a scale rule would help you, then transfer the measurements to say an A2 sheet of paper. It will be very time consuming, but with care should give the desired result. Best of luck. regards, Tony.
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Tony C wrote:Hi Derek, Perhaps buying a scale rule would help you, then transfer the measurements to say an A2 sheet of paper. It will be very time consuming, but with care should give the desired result. Best of luck. regards, Tony. Hi tony, Thanks for your input  . I didn't even know such things existed. Will certainly be looking into it. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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