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hi can someone eplain what treenailing is ,is it hard to do,what do you use to do it .cheers val
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Hi Val, treenailing is not difficult but is time consuming.... many ways to do it and the link below will show how I achieved it...  http://forum.model-space...sts&t=5013&p=49
Hope it helps.. Regards Alan
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Hi Val Treenailing is the depiction of the nails in the ends of each plank on the deck and hull. There are generally 2 nails at every plank end and adding these can enhance the overall look of the model. The nails are usually made by drilling very small holes at each plank end, then inserting cocktail stick ends into these holes, the ends are left in and sanded down to deck or hull level. When the model is later stained the nails will be more pronounced. For a metal nail look soft brass wire can be used instead of cocktail sticks. It is very repetitive work and will need thousands of nails for the entire model, also it can look overscale on a smaller scale ship. There are a few builds on here showing this being done, I will post a link when I can find one  Steve
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 I was just looking for this page to put the link up, you beat me to it Alan
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thanks to both of you for your reply,looks very time consuming but thinking of giving it ago as it adds great detail ,cocktail sticks on the shopping list thanks val
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Hi Val Just something to be aware of the really cheap cocktail sticks are made from bamboo that can be a pain to cut, paying a little more gets you real wood ones regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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hi apurchase thanks for that tip will splash the cash ,val
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stevie 0 ,the soft brass wire what gauge would it need to be .val
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Hi Val, 0.5mm brass or copper wire will do. You need to drill the holes first then insert the wire, snip near the deck and sand off. The sanding will also slightly widen the nailhead. Steve
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Hi Van or you can use brass pins from here just snip off the heads after http://www.cornwallmodel...atalog/amati_nails.html
Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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thanks for your replys, something to think about ,val
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val ellams wrote:hi can someone eplain what treenailing is ,is it hard to do,what do you use to do it .cheers val Treenailing works best on smaller than 1:45 scale to be correct. In a build like the Victory, the original ship has 120 ribs, while on regular bigger scales of model build , only has about 20 ribs. The nails on the bow are also bigger than of the rest of the build. The modeller need to decide if he want to be true to the original ship and keep the above in mind. ( I read this in some Issue between 25 - 35: Modellers Know How ) Marcel "Rather try and fail than had failed to try".Sovereign of the Seas Model Space forum: Marcel's build
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Heres how the wire looks when done -  As and Andy said, pins can also be used but most pins will be too thick, 0.7mm - 1mm could look overscale, there is a 0.5mm very fine pin available too though. Another thing to think about is that if you are treenailing the entire hull then the pins will be expensive at at around £1.50 per 100 as you will need a couple of thousand of them. Steve
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thanks marcel for your comment it as certainly give me something to think about .val
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it certainly looks good ,need to think this through ,thanks for the pic ,val.
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Hi Val Trenails were originaly wooden pegs but were superceaded by steal and other metals on more modern boats but the difference being that where metal was used either a wooden plug or tar was used to plug the hole thus sealing the metal in. If you look at the pic below you can just make out the trenails/ plugs in the deck . hope this clears things up regards Andy arpurchase attached the following image(s): Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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thanks for the pic andy yes i can see what mean. thanks val
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