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I am doing quite well on the planking...or so I thought, I am currently at part 26 and reached planking level No12...but woe is me, my total number of planks at this level is only ten  , I have checked my starting point and it looks good...is it because i have not chamfered down the planking enough in places on the build...will I carry on or do I need to take some remedial action...thank you
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Hi Kavsie, Firstly, welcome to the forum - In this case a photo would be a huge help in seeing what the problem is. If you are counting the planks at the middle section then it is not going to be down to over tapering. Get a photo up and let's have a look Just to clarify though, the 12th plank is the 1st one that does not curve round the bow, are you saying you have reached this point at plank 10? Steve
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Hi Stevie...the plank that does no curve as you can see it in temp position for photo is the 11th kavsie attached the following image(s):
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It seems that you are 1 plank out on the bow formers, plank 11 should be flush with the bow former tops or slightly below them. Yours is a clear 10 planks and seems to have finished evenly at the top of the formers. It could be as you said that the bow planks were not tapered enough and you have gained 5mm spread across the height of the 10 planks. You could just carry on planking upwards but you will just need to be aware that any plank numbering in the mags will have to be transposed to your build situation - as long as you are aware of it then I can't see it affecting the rest of the build upwards. Steve
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Thank you Stevie....will carry on and mark the 11th plank as No 12 for guidance and hopefully will have no issues,,,,just have to maintain awareness upwards from here on in....enjoying the build tho, (especially as it does not ALL work out as it says on the tin!)...thank you again
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Just took a look back in my mags and I see that there is no tapering required on the first 6 planks at the bow, but you were supposed to take a mm off each plank upwards after that - so you have gained a planks width (5mm) over the last 4 planks, which doesn't seem possible  unless you didnt taper at all - mag says planks 7-11 at 4mm each = 20mm, or in your case planks 7-10 at 5mm each = 20mm - thats the only thing I can see has happened. There is nothing else I can see to have caused this so with some common sense and the fact you are aware of it I'm sure you can carry on planking upwards. This is my opinion you understand, and what I would do in this situation - someone else may have other ideas Steve
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Hi Kavsie Stevie's quite right about the carrying on, although it's good if your planking does match the official build, it is not essential as you are simply putting a 'skin' onto the skeleton of the ship at this point which will be covered over with the second planking anyway. As Stevie says though, be aware that the plank numbers DON'T match up, especially if you are measuring for gun ports or similar later on. The important bit is to get that first skin as smooth and level as possible! Best of luck with her! Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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I am going to ponder for the afternoon on this, it might be easier for me (less of a thought process later on in the marking of gun ports) to remove the planks concerned an just replaced with the correct shortened ones at 4mm.....couple of hrs lost will be the only cost..
Robin...I see you noticed my planking is obvious that i am a novice but I am sure my sanding block should smooth it out....very pleased with the performance of the electric plank bending tool...
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This is entirely up to you, you would only have to remove the top 4 planks at the bow as the other 6 were not meant to be tapered anyway. You will need to taper them from 4mm at the bow back to about frame 13 so the narrowing is nice and gradual. Good luck and how about a build diary? BTW, your planking looks fine and will smooth out to a nice finish, those 2mm planks are thick enough to take a lot of sanding. Take care with leaving gaps if you plan on a natural finish though. Steve
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decided at the start that going with the original finish would help to obscure mistakes..such a minor gaps etc......just off to ponder BTW, it would be the longest diary ever, I work abroad and therefore have a good backlog of issues to get me some quiet hrs in my shed,,reckon I should complete the project mid 2015
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Although I was sorry to see your problem,but, in some way I was pleased I saw it as it made me check to see if mine would be like this. I measured using a scrap piece of planking and it looks like things will be OK. Not really being an expert I can't offer any advice. The only advice I can give is, don't give up. There's a way around everything.
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Sinbad...you are in the same boat as me (excuse the pun), I have decided to carry on and am probably doing so in the comfort that it is after all constructed with timber and therefore I can add/subtract to suit, although I am focused on the need to maintain compliance as much as possible,,even when cutting out the gun ports it seems that each one looks different but I am sure this is just my mind playing tricks as when I look at other posts on here showing me their progress it seems I am doing ok,,my No.1 rule is..."slowly slowly slowly"!!,I guess I am also looking forward to the lower hull planking.....NOT!!!...but am buoyed up by the fact there are a lot of people on this forum who will gladly help no matter what the issue is...fair play to them for taking the time to do so
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kavsie wrote:Sinbad...you are in the same boat as me (excuse the pun), I have decided to carry on and am probably doing so in the comfort that it is after all constructed with timber and therefore I can add/subtract to suit, although I am focused on the need to maintain compliance as much as possible,,even when cutting out the gun ports it seems that each one looks different but I am sure this is just my mind playing tricks as when I look at other posts on here showing me their progress it seems I am doing ok,,my No.1 rule is..."slowly slowly slowly"!!,I guess I am also looking forward to the lower hull planking.....NOT!!!...but am buoyed up by the fact there are a lot of people on this forum who will gladly help no matter what the issue is...fair play to them for taking the time to do so I find that one seems to improve as you go along. I found the prospect of planking a little scary and I've had my moments. So far everything seems to be working out OK as I approach plank 12. I find now I am using my own little ways to do things and am using the instructions as a guide. I still read the instructions thoroughly although ,as you may know, guys seldom do this. As you say, it's a case of 'slowly,slowly'. Like you I am, in a strange way, looking forward to the bottom planking. It's going to be a challenge.
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well I will not get back to mine until late this month, then I will start the lower hull planking, I am not too daunted as the electric plank bending tool has boosted my confidence, but still i know it will be not that easy...will keep you posted on my progress
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