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#1 Posted : 24 March 2014 10:23:27

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Just a little confused, perhaps I'm missing something!!
ISSUE 3, pages 8,9 & 10 detail how to construct the straight keel assembly jig, which you cannot complete until issue 7
- yep got that, the illustrations suggest the bare keel is then fixed to the Jig. Pages 10 - 13 then instruct you to glue rib frames to the central keel section,(this is well before the keel can be completed - now I'm lost

If the objective is to keep the keel firmly upright and at perfect right angles, why can't you simply use addition (but larger)angle brackets at the bow and stern sections???
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#2 Posted : 24 March 2014 10:43:21

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hi steven,it would help you greatly if you looked at a few members builds,to see how they did it,nothing like pics to explain" how to" here is one link to assist you, http://forum.model-space...posts&t=4775&p=2
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#3 Posted : 25 March 2014 03:08:27

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Hi steven.b

Just something I noted when using angle brackets to keep main frame straight is those type of angle brackets used by karl1113 and myself (they show a pressure crimp on the inside where bend is you'll see in karl's pics)when screwed into base board at 4 mm apart at bottom they are found to be 5-6 mm apart at the top. You can see this easily in karl's pics.
In other words they will not hold main frame in exact 90 degrees to base board tilting very slightly one side or the other. This can be overcome by packing at the top of the angle bracket till you get exact right angle. Don't use too much pressure or you'll force them further apart.
So long as rib frames are 90 degrees to main frame and main frame running straight it shouldn't be a problem.
If you can find angle brackets size wanted without that crimp and true right angle then purchase that type instead.

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#4 Posted : 25 March 2014 13:47:09

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It is important to keep the keel upright and straight, the ply can wrap very easily and is difficult to straighten This is my fourth partworks build.
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Bounty, Cutty Sark, Red Baron Triplane, Bismark,Titanic,Endeavour
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#5 Posted : 27 March 2014 13:17:07

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You can first complete the keel section by laying all 3 keel parts down on a flat surface and put weights on it until the glue has dried.

The keel holder is to help keep the keel straight and perfectly upright while fitting the ribs 90 degrees onto the keel. It is important that the ribs does not twist in any direction, otherwise you might get issues with the cannon ports or deck plates that does not align to the ribs.

I used the deck plates in issue 11 to align the ribs before glueing the ribs into place. Once you had start planking, the strakes take over the place of the keel holder to keep everything firm in place.

You can also buy square hardwood bars at your local hobby shop to add to your keel holder. This method makes the alignment of the ribs a bit easier.
Fit the re-enforcements blocks only when you're done with the all ribs fitted as they tend to interfere with your fitting and alignment of the ribs.
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