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Hi. Also starting the SOS and already seen some good ideas in the forum (to adopt). I have built HMS Supply, cross section of the Endeavour and a customised version of the Fish. Currently building HMS Victory and HMS Jackson although delayed due to moving house. Still to build the Bismarck and HMS Endeavour itself. The SOS looks like it will be a bit challenging but very enjoyable and when finished very satisfying. Also I like the pace of the build as well. a little bit each week means no need to rush! Also now great mates with local newsagent!
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Hi bb Welcome to the forum and the build regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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hi, and a very warm welcome to the forum,and looking forward to seeing some pics of your builds. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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]Hi, I have thought I should share an idea that came from an earlier forum discussion. I have found my uncoordinated thumbs struggle with keeping the bulkheads square to the keel during the early stages. One of the jigs in the discussion inspired me to buy 12 right angle brackets used for construction and a piece of timber 80 mm x 30 mm x 750 mm. Centering the keel and using the bow restraint provided in Issue 3 I secured the false keel and then marked out the position of the bulkheads to ensuring a straight alignment. Once that position was established I secured the brackets but noted that the flat head screws tended to twist the bracket on final tightening so I switched to round head screws as these are flat underneath and problem solved. The assembly fits well and is very secure. I have also considered using the brackets by securing the smaller facing to the either side of false keel for each bulkhead and the long face squares the bulkhead and then bolting the bulkhead to fix the position which I may still do. Hopefully the pics tell the story. bb1949 attached the following image(s):
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Great idea we can always learn something new Previous builds Bounty, Cutty Sark, Red Baron Triplane, Bismark,Titanic,Endeavour http://jockspage.webs.com/
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Hi All, Good idea as stated earlier, just one thing to be cautious about though. When purchasing 90 degree brackets, don`t assume they are exactly 90 degrees. I purchased some in the UK and had to adjust them slightly to get them just right. Keep up the good work. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Nice start bb and welcome to the forum Rgd Martyn Building ? Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa Next Build ? When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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Good idea about the brackets. As mentioned, check the brackets first before fitting them. If your board is of solid wood, take care that it does not warp and spoil your build. Melimine is a cheap, good alternative as a base. "Rather try and fail than had failed to try".Sovereign of the Seas Model Space forum: Marcel's build
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Hi, thanks for the input. I took note to ensure I maintained the 90 degree angle and measured the space between each bulkhead prior to setting it in place. I also thank Marcel for the heads up on the timbre warping. Brisbane is very humid throughout February and March with temperatures ranging from 20 - 30 Celsius. The garage is air conditioned at 23 so I have a chance on that. Thought you may like to see the results at the end of issue 4. bb1949 attached the following image(s):
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Also I checked the level of each bulk head and found bulkhead #7 was about 1.5mm below the level of the others. You might spot my correction in the above photo's.
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looking good so far,keep up the good work. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Welcome to the forum BB and to the SOTS build... looks like you are off to a great start. Hope you enjoy the build, will be looking in from time to time... Good luck with her... Regards Alan
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Hi bb1949 Your build is really looking good. I like those angle brackets. They look to be real 90 degrees unlike the ones I used which when put into position were 4 mm at bottom apart and 5.5 mm apart at tops. I cured a bit with pressure from a pliers squeeze. Shouldn't have had to. Keep up the great work mate. As I said earlier in a reply I think it will be me following you not the other way around. Reghards George1 Building HMS SOTS
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Thanks you for your kind words George but I am mechanical challenged! The brackets are 25 x 50 x 40mm galvanized "Make-a-bracket' bracket and very close to 90 degrees. Haven't needed to bend or shape but used set squares to make sure all is ok. Taking up your idea of hanging back on the assembly prompted me to check the alignment of the keel. I rang a string line along the topside and thought this wasn't working so I decided to use some fine screw type eyelets setting 3 up the centre and then running a piece of dowel down the middle. This gave me a quick visual check to ensure everything was in line and then adjust the brackets accordingly. Also used some left over sprue to act as a spacer when fitting the two joining pieces. Now all I need do is wait until next Thursday. Brex.
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Hmm noticed my pic is upside down. Not sure why.
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I also sent the pics the wrong way too My apologies bb1949 attached the following image(s):
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bb1949 wrote:Hmm noticed my pic is upside down. Not sure why. Hi bb1949 Perhaps try to update your profile with a new pic. Or it might be in your computer pics where problem lies. If still problem use the turning symbol after clicking on pic selected in your pics and turn pic upside down save and maybe when transferred here they'll be right way up? That's if it is the problem. Hard trying to look at you on my head. Build still looking good. Understand your thread and eyelets. Good idea. Regards George1 Building HMS SOTS
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I joined the sections of the false keel as per issue 5 and when doing a trial fit of part 16 found I was not able to achieve a right angle unless I forced it. This was not a good option as it then wrapped the false keel. I suspect the cause is the alignment of the two pieces of timber maybe encroaching into the space reserved for the bulkhead. I have removed some of leading edge with some success but still not happy with the result. Does anyone have a suggestion. Thanks in advance.
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a little bit of trial and error needed at times to get a good fit, example was a few ribs I had to adjust to get them to fit just right. so hang on in there and get it to your satisfaction, Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Many thanks for the response and I agree persistence and patience are virtues. I learnt that from a master modeler some years ago. My problem is resolved and the culprit was me! I allowed the bracing to get fractionally off line which was magnified by fitting the bulkhead. I have attached a photo of my two earlier builds others still in progress. bb1949 attached the following image(s):
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