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#21 Posted : 06 April 2014 09:23:03

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BigGrin Bril start Andy Loving this one BigGrin Rgd Martyn
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#22 Posted : 06 April 2014 11:03:17

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BigGrin Hi Martyn
Thanks for looking in and your comments
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#23 Posted : 06 April 2014 11:28:32

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Hi Andy BigGrin .
I wish you had not done this as it has got me wanting to do this one now.BigGrin .
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Seriously fantastic start.
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BigGrin Hi All
I was going to go for a natural finish using a stain ,medium oak to be precise [ see pic ] but im not happy with it, its too dark and the insides of ships would be painted.
So after a little research I have decided paint will be the option im taking for the insides and a varnish on the outsides.
Early 18th century ships of the Royal Navy were mostly painted green on the sides and roof of the main decks and a light blue was used in the officers quarters. The decks would be bleached white from the daily Holy stoning done by the crew to keep all spick and span. Bleached decks wont be an easy option to reproduce so I will leave the decks in there natural light colour but the rest will be painted in a light green apart from the pillars which will be of oak stain. The gun carriages will be matt black and not the red as depicted in the kit pictures.
Of course the above mentioned colours could be changed to the preferences of the captain aboard each ship and the availability of paint colours in the stores but it is a good indication of the majority of ships internal colours.
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BigGrin Hi Mark
She certainly is a very nice and comprehensive kit , sorry if I have got you wanting to do this one too but its certainly one for the wish list. Thanks for looking in and the comments
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BigGrin Hi All
After deciding paint was the way to go I have spent the day undercoating and laying down some coats of paint but in between I managed to make up the two grating boxes for each deck. Personally I think it looks better painted but will look better once some planks go down but each to his own. Oh and just for Steve I have added some penny pics to give an idea of size
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#27 Posted : 08 April 2014 20:56:33

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BigGrin Hi All
Managed to do some of the lower deck today and used the panart way to trenail which came out looking ok I think with I little pencil lead to highlight them. The lower grating has been added and there is till some planking to add around it.
More soon
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Nice work!Woot

Andy, can you add a few lines about what the Panart way to trenails is? I'm planning ahead for the time I'll be trenailing the HMS Surprise.

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BigGrin Hi Adrie
Thanks for looking in and your comments, your question about the Panart way of trenailing is good for larger planks like those used in this kit but may be a little to fiddly for thinner or smaller planks.
Here's how then mark at right angles with a pencil across the plank then use a razor saw to cut to a depth of about a third of the planks thickness, this will form the joint. Then use a 1 mm drill in a pin vice to drill the trenails three on each side of the plank in this instance going to a depth of roughly the same as the razor saw cut. Now comes the darkening/shading bit use a sharp point soft lead pencil B6 to fill the cut and drilled holes, this gives it the definition and look's quite good. Hope this is of help
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Coming together nicely Andy..... Cool Cool

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BigGrin Hi Adrie
Thanks for looking in and your comments, your question about the Panart way of trenailing is good for larger planks like those used in this kit but may be a little to fiddly for thinner or smaller planks.
Here's how then mark at right angles with a pencil across the plank then use a razor saw to cut to a depth of about a third of the planks thickness, this will form the joint. Then use a 1 mm drill in a pin vice to drill the trenails three on each side of the plank in this instance going to a depth of roughly the same as the razor saw cut. Now comes the darkening/shading bit use a sharp point soft lead pencil B6 to fill the cut and drilled holes, this gives it the definition and look's quite good. Hope this is of help
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It certainly is, Andy!! Whether it is usable for the Surprise, I do not know yet, not having seen the deck planks of that ship but I hazard a guess that they would be too small for that. But it is definitely something to check out later.

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BigGrin Hi Alan
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BigGrin Hi Adrie
Glad I could be of service
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BigGrin Hi All

The lower planking is now done but needs a good sanding as yet, the grating section has not been glued in position to aid the sanding and will be glued down after.
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Looking good Andy.... have you decided on the stain you will use for the decks or do you intend to go for a natural finish..... Great work... Cool Cool

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Alan
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BigGrin Hi Steve
The kit is more generic based on a typical English fighting ship of the early 1800's, I think CMB also say the gun cariages are walnut but mine are ply not too worried as mine will be painted. Its also a bit of a quandry with the internal colours as Stone and light green are mentioned but Stone can be brown through to grey so thats why i chose the light green for the frames.
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BigGrin Hi Alen
Thanks for looking in and your comments. Your question on the decks is they will be staying the colour they are without stain as on a real ship of the period the decks would be Holy stoned each day which would render them almost white or bleached .The bleaching would be hard to replicate and at the same time look authentic I may experiment with a white wash but as I have already said above just varnish
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Looking great Andy. A shame the kit does not provide for a water way plank, but it does not attract from the build or your finish one bit.Cool

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BigGrin Hi Jase
Thanks for looking in and your comments
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