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#1 Posted : 12 February 2013 23:53:12

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Can anyone tell me the difference between a ship and a boat ? does anyone know who Christopher Wells is ?
well I asked him the question, I will give you his answer after I have had some suggestions here.

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#2 Posted : 13 February 2013 00:06:22

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sorry, no prizes, I don't know the answer myself, that's why I am asking the question.

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#4 Posted : 13 February 2013 00:16:45

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My Grandfather used to say (he was a ship builder)
On a Boat the centre of gravity is below the Freeboard, whereas on a Ship it's above. This has the consequence that Boats will lean into a turn and Ships out.
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BigGrinHaving served time in RN in both the General Service and Submarine Service we classed surface vessels as ships and
submarines as boats
Also submariners nicknamed ships as BigGrin targets or skimmers
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I like your reply Andy, makes good sense, But Budgie, If a surface vessel is a ship, why are they called Tug Boats. As I say I don't know why they are called Boats and Ships, But I would really like to find out.

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Personally, I would go according to the definitions attached to whe words:

Ship: A vessel that carries passengers or freight

Boat: A small vessel for travel on water
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I've heard a lot of answers to this,
A Ship has a Captain, a Boat doesn't.
Ships are big Boats are not.
A Ship has a Crew, a Boat doesn't.
A Boat can be put on a Ship, but not vice versa.
Unfortunately exceptions can be produced for all of themConfused, Fishing Boats have crews and Captains. How Big is Big. There are Ships that are designed just to carry other Ships. There are Rowing Boats that ferry passengers. I don't think anybody knows the exact definition of a Canoe or a Yacht either.
If this were QI, I would produce the 'Nobody Knows' card.LOL
I have heard there once was a defined definition in the days of Sail, that a Ship had 3 masts or more.
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Thanks Andy for you very informative answer, I think I will just rest it there, Seems hard to define. The reason I asked this question on here, is because on holiday earlier in January, my wife and I were cruising on Cunards Queen Elizabeth, I asked the captain, Christopher Wells, his interpretation of the question, his response was that ships carry boats. I was not fully satisfied with his answer.

But Andy, I am fully satisfied with your answer.

Thanks again

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A ship can carry a boat.......a boat can't carry a ship! BigGrin
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When i was in the Mob an Officer once said "a boat is a thing with oars"LOL
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BigGrin Hi just a thought but could also be down to the rank of the "Captain" of the boat/ship
A "Captain" could actually only hold the rank of Lieutenant on inland survey craft etc
A full blown Captain with four rings (on his sleeve)i would expect to be Captain of a destroyer or larger ship/boat
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This is one of those questions that no-one will ever be able to give a definitive answer, if you look here

http://wiki.answers.com/...tween_a_boat_and_a_ship

there is a quote that says:
According to the United States Navy a boat is "A small craft capable of being carried aboard a ship." (NAVEDTRA 14325, pg. AI-2). But hold on, in true navy fashion the same manual gives a different definition on page 7-5 it says, "The term boat refers to a non-commissioned waterborne vessel that is not designated as a service
craft.


To Andy(Court Orchard) This was a question on series 7 of QI they gave the answer that Budgie mentioned about ships being surface vessels and boats being submarines.

The actual answer has probably changed over time, after all we had ships and boats before submarines came along. I seem to recall at one time it was a matter of length, and then there is the subject of a ship having more than one deck.

There is another contradiction here:

http://www.navalshipbuil...D=2344&newsCatID=15

Here you have a shipyard building a submarine, does that then mean that submarines have to be built at boatyards??BigGrin

I doubt if we will ever get a clear definition.
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Mo wrote:
The reason I asked this question on here, is because on holiday earlier in January, my wife and I were cruising on Cunards Queen Elizabeth, I asked the captain, Christopher Wells, his interpretation of the question, his response was that ships carry boats.

From another Cunard captain, "A ship earns its keep. A boat is a hole in the water, surrounded by wood or plastic, into which you throw money."

Regards, Colin.
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