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Amazing work Robin, the wicker work is really going to add authenticity to the whole dio.... excellent piece of modelling..... Love Love

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Hi again! Many thanks to Adrie, Alan, Derek, Martyn and Stevie!Blushing Since the last posting I have completed the first section of wicker, it's still 'freestanding' until the ground work behind it has been coloured but all the painting has been done on the panel and I'm really pleased with it. I'm still trying to decide whether to post up the completion of that panel as a part of the instalment that covers that far corner of the base work or to put it up as a 'fill in' or extra piece. Time will tell!BigGrin
Derek, this week's is just for you!Cool

Part Twenty Five:

“Any old Iron!”

As mentioned previously, in this instalment we come to the other scratch built trench lining: Corrugated Iron sheeting or “Wriggly Tin” as it has come to be known! The raw material for this little exercise comes courtesy of my mum, namely, her finished / out of date eye ointment, or more precisely, the empty tubes of the same!
Although the base material remained the same, I tried various means of turning it into the finished article before I settled on the method shown here. I will outline the earlier method when I get to that part of the procedure in order to point out a ‘near mistake’ to avoid committing if you want to give this a go yourselves.Blink
Where as last week’s tutorial on the wicker work was mainly useful for those creating models from the Great War and earlier, this one is suitable for dioramas from the early 20th Century to the present day (WW2 Lancaster Airfields included!!)
Photo 1 illustrates the tube of corrugated iron in its raw state! This is a tube of ‘Lacri-Lube’ eye ointment used to treat dry eye conditions. The first task is to get as much of what ever remains inside the tube out, firstly by just squeezing the tube out through the integral nozzle and then by slicing off that nozzle end and rolling the tube flat to squeeze out the last drops as in Photo 2.
Note also that the opposite end of the tube has also been rolled back from the crimping which seals the end. The rolling flat was accomplished using my old rubber roller from my artistic screen printing days, it is about six inches across with a metal frame and wooden handle. If you have such a thing great! If not, the larger type aluminium knife handle (the round cylinder kind with a chuck in the end) would do the job just as well, or even just a wooden dowel.
With all the sticky gel removed as far as possible, the next job is to slice off a thin strip down one side of the flattened tube together with a similar strip off the bottom end (down to about the end of that black rectangle printed on the bottom). With those two strips cut off you can now open up the tube to reveal the inside as in Photo 3.
With the tube now opened up, it was taken to the sink and given a good scrubbing with an old toothbrush loaded with a drop of washing up liquid to remove the last vestiges of the gel. This is pretty easy to do as the gel, being specifically formulated for the eye is water soluble, (just as well really!)BigGrin
Once the tube is thoroughly cleaned and dried it was again rolled out flat with the roller to give the rectangle of malleable metal as seen in Photo 4. As I’ve said many times in my Victory diary, I really miss those days when all the toothpaste tubes were made of soft metal instead of today’s ‘pretty useless for modelling’ plastic!
The next stage is the most laborious and messy part of the whole process – removing the paint from one side of the metal. I have achieved this by sanding, sanding and then sanding some more! I must try and get a bottle of paint stripper and see if that will work on this material, I’d much rather make up a few sheets and leave them soaking overnight than keep doing it this way! In actual fact, it’s probably not a definite requirement anyway, I do paint both sides but I think having a bare metal starting point makes the finished article look more authentic as any scratches or flaws will reveal the metal finish as it would in the original, plus, the acrylic paint doesn’t like sticking to that gloss finish too much either. With all the paint removed, we’re left with a sheet like that in Photo 5.
Now this is where the methods changed. In my original test sheet, I used a blunt ended carving tool with a steel rule to scribe the channels into the sheet. This worked fairly well apart from trying to keep the channels running parallel, the steel rule kept trying to spin off target! (Plus it's very easy to press too hard and tear through the sheet!) In fact, I actually preferred the finished trial sheet to the eventual winner in the Miss 1917 Wriggly Tin competition, the corrugations were narrower and looked, well, more authentic. Fortunately, my pictorial research brought me to a different conclusion. You see, like most of you, I’ve grown up in the era of DIY superstores and translucent corrugated roofing sheets. The reason the first attempt at the wriggly tin looked better to my eyes was because what I had made was a sheet of modern corrugated iron! Checking the old photographs again and again revealed that back then, the corrugations were much wider and deeper. You can still get a very similar thing today, in a synthetic material for stable and shed roofs, but much of today’s sheets come in a tighter, shallower profile. So what I needed was a ‘clunkier’ looking ‘old’ style sheet.
Enter that mystery object from a couple of week’s ago! AND I noticed nobody tried to guess what it was!!Flapper Actually I made it more difficult by deliberately reversing one of the two halves! This is my MkI corrugated press jig, (Photo 6) composed of two flat strips of brass with a series of 1mm brass rods soldered across each one. When placed together, the lines of rods on one flat fit into the gaps between the rods on the other flat – see where this is going?Confused
The flattened, paint-stripped sheet is placed between the two brass jigs and the sandwich is carefully slid in between the jaws of my bench drill vice, keeping the metal sheet straight as the jig is slid down to the top edge of the vice. Once in position, the bench vice is tightened up and the two halves of the jig force the sheet between the rods, much as the steam presses would have formed the original full sized sheets back in 1917, (Photo 7).
With the vice jaws tightened up fully, they were released back and the resulting corrugated sheeting was cut off the remaining flat sheet which was then slid back down the jig and the whole procedure repeated. In Photo 8 you can see two of the newly pressed sheets looking like a pair of freshly galvanised bits of corrugated iron. Unlike the earlier hand scribed method, the beauty of this process is that each sheet is a copy of the last, so they will easily overlap each other when they are employed in the diorama, whether as roofing or trench linings.
The first stage in turning these pristine sheets into the more ‘weather-beaten’ variety was to undercoat them in the same Citadel Celestra Grey Base as I’ve used on just about every other bit of undercoating on this build (as well as the Bunker Concrete Grey as well!). The sheets, all four of them from the one tube, were all painted on both sides and left to dry. They were then given a wash to emphasize the shadows and general ‘grubbiness’ of the sheets. I was in two minds here, whether to do them in Citadel Shadow Black Ink or Citadel Skaven Brown Ink so I did one in each only to discover that the best looking effect was a mix of both the inks together. You can see the result in Photo 9. The reason there are two of each is because I actually forgot to take a photo of the sheets in their grey undercoats! Blushing All the sheets have been given a wash of ink, the two grey ones are simply upside down!
Once the ink wash was dry, the final step was to give a slightly rusty look and this was achieved with the Humbrol Rust Wash, an enamel based wash which was further diluted with white spirit to tone it down a little. The little ‘spots’ of darker rust were obtained by using the inner cap top off the rust wash bottle where some thicker pigments had semi dried out. The final effect is illustrated in Photo 10.
The last two Photos, 11 and 12, illustrate the two ways in which these sheets will be incorporated into the diorama. In the case of the bunker, only the edges of the roof will be covered in the sheeting. Just in from the edge will be a line of sandbags, with a mound of earth on top of them so the front and back edges of the roof will only need short sections of cut down sheeting. The rear edge will have some additional work on those sheets as an 18pdr shell crater sits just behind the bunker so the sheeting will exhibit some ‘wear and tear’ OK! Shredded then!
The bottom photo shows the same sheets in their ‘horizontal’ role as trench linings. This is one of the two removable sections of trench which I can work on off the main base, I didn’t want to stick too many bits of wood in there, as this section is actually supposed to be wicker lined! But you can get the general idea.
I have to say, my ‘cost cutting’ exercises do sometimes go better than I had hoped and this, I’m really chuffed to admit, is one of them! The corrugated sheets have turned out really well, and apart from the brass to construct the jig (which I already had anyway) don’t cost a penny to make. One last idea though, if you don’t have a source of free medicine tubes like me, I would think that this method would work just as well with the type of disposable flan or pie base as sold in supermarkets. They are simply a thicker form of aluminium foil and should be just as ‘mouldable’ as the tube material.
In next week’s instalment, I’ll try and get the mould for casting the tank track ‘spuds’ put together (I’ve just got this ‘thing’ about mixing epoxy substances together, horrible messy stuff!)Cursing

Until then, Happy building to you All!


Robin
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Hi Robin, BigGrin

Brilliant stuff,

Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

Would we expect anything else.Nah

Keep it coming.

Can`t wait to see the final result, but then what will we have to look forward too. Crying


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BigGrin WOW stunning simply stunning lovely work Robin BigGrin Rgd Martyn
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Stunning work once again Robin.... amazing what you can do with some common every day household items and a little bit of thought.... Drool DroolLove Love .. To say I admire your work would be an understatement.... Very well done...

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Many thanks to Alan, Martyn and Derek, and as for not expecting anything else - you had to say it didn't you!!BigGrin

Part Twenty Six: Casting the Spuds (Or NOT as the case may be!)


Come to the cookhouse door, boys, sniff the lovely stew.
Who is it says the colonel gets better grub than you?
Any complaints this morning? Do we complain? Not we.
What's the matter with lumps of onion floating around the tea?


Another verse from “Oh What a Lovely War”

Well, they say pride comes before a fall! I was so pleased with the way the corrugated sheets turned out last time, here’s my reward!
This instalment was supposed to be about how I was going to cast the little track extensions called ‘Grousers’ or ‘Spuds’ which were fitted to the MkIV’s by the time of Messines. Unfortunately, due to a slight er, error on my part, the exercise had been an almost complete disaster. Still, in this hobby we learn as much from our failures as from our successes so I think I’ll still post it up and hopefully, next week I’ll put it right!Blushing
Everything began quite well, I’d already made up a set of five spuds in plasticard and glued them onto a length of plastic to form a sprue as you can see in Photo 3. To form the casting mould I was going to use one of the Perspex ‘boxes' I’d made up a couple of years ago to cast the Brandywine figures in, and with the length of the sprue it gave me enough spare room to fit a single figure as well. What I need is a type of ‘Generic German’, no particular pose but easy enough to convert into a variety of new poses later on. Out of the packs of Revell WW1 German Infantry and HaT WW1 German Heavy Weapons, the best one I could find was a figure holding a pair of Lewis Gun Ammo drums. Lewis Gun? That’s right, apparently the Germans loved the Lewis and used captured guns whenever they could get them. The heavy weapons set includes a figure firing a Lewis from the hip with his assistant carrying a pair of spare drums as shown in Photo 1. (Still with some of the sprue attached!) In Photo 2, the same figure has had the drums removed and tidied up. As you can see, he is now just a basic figure awaiting ‘corrective surgery’!
Both the figure and the spud sprue were glued onto a piece of Plastruct square girder ready for the mould making. The piece of wood behind is to form a reservoir for the white metal, more on that later.
In Photo 5 we see the actual mould making material. This is the large 1kg tin of Hobby Time RTV/HB Silicon Rubber, a two part epoxy rubber available from the Hobby’s catalogue or website. The RTV (as I found out on Youtube) means Room Temperature Vulcanisation, ie, a chemical process which hardens the rubber rather than the heat process as in car tyre production. I’ve made nearly ten moulds with this tin and there’s enough still in there for two or three more (I think). I have actually sent off now for another tin in order to start casting the figures for this diorama. The only problem I’ve got with this one is that when the blue paper label was stuck around the tin it overlapped the section with the instructions in English so the first three or so words in each line are missing! (Well, it IS made in Germany, crafty blighters!) In order to mix the rubber and catalyst (hardener) together, it has to be added at the rate of 2 – 4%, that’s fine, except that the rubber comes in grams and the catalyst comes in millilitres! Now I’m used to working in inches and millimetres at the same time (sometimes with unexpected results!) but gms and mls?
OK I thought, having ‘misplaced’ the original instruction sheet that came with the tin I decided to be too clever for my own good. In Photos 6 and 7 you can see the rubber and catalyst being measured out. (For God’s sake don’t tell Mum I’m using her bestist new digital scales. Or for that matter that I’m doing this on the worktop either!!)Crying I measured out exactly 100gm of the rubber and then, logically speaking, I should need between 2 and 4gm of catalyst. Yeah right! By the time I got to 3gms I was already thinking ‘I’m sure I never used this much before!’ I stopped on 3gms and added it into the rubber, stirring away nicely. The correct measure will give you about five minutes to mix and pour the compound into the mould, I began to feel it going stiff after thirty seconds! I scraped the rapidly thickening rubber into the box as fast as I could and managed to push the components down into the surface. It wasn’t what I would call ‘ideal’! Instead of the correct flat surface with the items half submerged, it was very lumpy with the originals not laying very flat. (Photo 8) I was able to slice away most of the raised portions and decided to persevere and try the second half the following day. This time I measured out 80gms of rubber and just added the catalyst to a little bottle until it looked more like the amounts I’d used before. Again I might have used the full 4% as it began to show signs of thickening after a minute or two but at least I was able to pour it into the mould as seen in Photo 9. The big blob on the right was just the result of me trying not to drip the mixing stick over my bench and almost pouring the rubber outside the box in the process!
In Photo 10, you can see the ‘waste not, want not’ recovery process. This stuff will drip like treacle for hours! The plastic measuring cup which I used to dibble out the rubber into the mixing bowl as seen in Photo 6 (an old Tescos fruit salad container), is seen gripped in the ‘Helping Hands’ gizmo as it drips back into the tin. I put the tin top on some hours later and still found a couple of drips on it the following morning!
In Photo 11 you can see the two halves of the mould. I still wasn’t overly optimistic about it working but decided to give it a try anyway. As I expected, the first half just wasn’t accurate enough to give good results. I tried adding channels cut into the rubber to help the flow of the liquid white metal (I’ll show the super little melting pot I bought a couple of years ago next time) but I just couldn’t get the spuds to cast properly. I think the main problem (as well as the inferior first mould) is that I made the spuds in their finished state, which doesn’t really provide a big enough entry hole for the metal to run into. I’m going to have another go at it and make the spuds in a more ‘basic’ fashion, probably only three at a time, and with larger sprues to help the casting process. It means having to finish them off in the metal form (if it works that is) but it’s worth trying to figure out if only for some future project!
As I said at the beginning, this was almost a complete disaster but the final Photo 12 shows that I did get something useful out of it. Again, due to that less than perfect mould the quality could be cleaner (and I’m going to re-do this figure in the new mould as well) but it’s still ‘usable’. The figure on the right is how it comes out of the mould with a couple of unwanted additions (air bubbles and bad fit on the two halves probably) but with a little basic cleaning up, paring away the excess metal and some careful diamond dust filing, a ‘not too bad’ figure can still be achieved. Out of the eight or so castings, I had about three ‘good’uns’, the others had either missing hands or a missing left leg (the right hand figure has the beginning of an air bubble just above his left foot!) But the great thing about home casting in white metal is there is NO wastage! Any defectives simply go back in the melting pot (quite literally!) and have another go.
So apologies to Stevie, as long as my new tin arrives soon I’ll have another go before next week and hopefully get it right this time!Cursing

See you all then!

Robin
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First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
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Hi Robin, BigGrin

That little issue, Crying , reminds me of my early driving days.

To be able to keep a car on the road, on an apprentices wage, you had to do everything yourself.

That included body repairs, on any Dagenham dustbin (FORD), you could afford.

Plastic padding, used to be the only thing on the market and I never got the mix right.

I spent more time sanding down filler knives/spatula`s than the actual bit I'd filled. LOL LOL

But Hey-Ho. Your builds still top notch. Cool

Worst case, patience runs out, or you do the bald bit by pulling your hair out.

Don`t think you will give in, your skills are way above the norm


Take a break, come back, take a second/third look:

PROBLEM GONE AWAY

I Hope, Love Love Love Love


Keep it coming I`m loving this.

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Lovely work with the castings Robin, you make it look so easy..... Keep the posts coming, can't wait to see the finished results on this dio....Drool Drool

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Many thanks to Derek and Alan once again!Blushing
I'm glad the casting looks easy!BigGrin But seriously, as long as the stuff is mixed / used correctly home casting is something that any modeller can do with great results. I'm using the Prince August white metal which is a very good quality material and, although not as cheap as when I started years ago (first on the kitchen gas ring and then with a camping gaz stove!) is still good value for money even now.
A quick text update - The wicker work is coming along great, of the four main full height pieces, only half of the last one still to go and then a very short firing step strip to follow. I'm going to paint them all at the same time to match the finished first section. Well, it had better match!Blink
The corrugated sheets are also coming along. I've begun to glue the sections onto the bunker roof and today I bought a can of Rustins Strypit Paint and varnish stripper to try on the ointment tubes, not cheap at £5.49 for a 250ml tin (from the Tool Shed) but strewth! what a difference! Whereas I spent nearly an hour carefully sanding away the paint from the first demo piece, the Strypit removed all the paint in about sixty seconds leaving a perfect shiny metal surface and all it took was a small 1/2" brush full. It's worth it's weight in gold for the time and effort it saves!
I'm now re-designing the spud originals for the new mould and now my new tin of rubber has come I've got a better guide to the exact amount of catalyst to use (it's measured in drops!) More on that next week. I've also realised all the finishing work I did inside the bunker hasn't been posted yet! So there's another instalment ready and waiting.
And Derek, I remember that Plastic Padding fondly, that's what I used on my very first 1/35 scale figures (or tried to!) Like you, mix it up as per the instructions and then get a good 30 seconds to try and model with it before it went rock hard!BigGrin Then I discovered Milliput!!Cool

See you all soon.

Robin
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Hi again to All!

Part Twenty Seven: More Spuds!

There’s something about casting spuds in white metal that apparently the Gods of Modelling don’t like! I was hoping to show the shiny new additions in this instalment but unfortunately, not quite yet!
The delay is two fold, partly, after the new pot of rubber arrived from Hobby’s and I read the full instructions I realised that you are supposed to give the newly made moulds four to five days to completely cure, that in itself would have pushed the actual metal casting back to the weekend as I only poured the second half of the mould last night. The second reason was that I made a monumentally ‘plonker’ style mistake during that pouring, more on that in a mo’.
Anyway, in Photo 1 we have the old and new styles of the plastic spud originals. In designing the second variant I have literally turned it on its head! The left hand Mk I was designed basically as a finished plastic component, if I was simply making them all in plasticard, this is how they would look (and it might yet come to that!!). The grey arrows represent the direction from which the molten white metal was or will be poured into the mould. In the case of the Mk I this was down the narrow ‘arm’ of the spud where it was then supposed to fill up the spade end. This didn’t work because I suspect that the entry point was simply too narrow to allow the metal down inside before it cooled and solidified. Cutting a further channel in the rubber down to the lower ‘reservoir’ to aid the flow rate only allowed the metal to run straight down the arm, again by-passing the spade completely.
As you can see in the right hand Mk II, the new mould is much chunkier and the flow direction has been reversed and substantially increased. By having the metal flowing down the stepped channel it should be able to fill in the spade before flowing on down the arm. (Good in theory anyway!)Blink
In Photo 2 we have the three completed spuds on their new channels whilst in Photo 3 they are seen again glued to the wooden block that will form the pouring channel with plastic sprues glued to the arms, which will lead down to the flow reservoir. All that now remained was to make up the first half of the mould.
Photo 4 illustrates that process under way. The mould box has been adapted slightly, moving one of the ends in to create a smaller mould as I’m going to just try this one for the spuds this time (and just as well I did as you’ll see!) This one will take two halves of 50g of rubber, not the 100g as before. The ‘proper’ instructions for the rubber says to add 2-4% catalyst (at least I had that right last time) and it also says that the catalyst is measured out at 40 drops to one gram so a mould of 100g for example would need 80 drops to give the 2%. My 50g mould would therefore require 40 drops. Forty drops were duly measured out and mixed in to the rubber. The instructions also say that the pot life (time until the rubber begins to cure)is five minutes. That being the case, I wondered why my pot was starting to congeal after just one minute! It might be the temperature up in the attic (it’s a warm spell down here again!) or it might conceivably be my old pot of rubber is too old, its supposed to have a shelf life of “at least 12 months” and mine must be over two years old by now! Anyhow, I managed to get the stuff out of the mixing pot and into the box and quickly press the spuds and the reservoir block down into the rapidly hardening mixture. Not very neat but it would do.
After that, everything went down hill rapidly! As well as the tin of rubber, I also bought a bottle of releasing agent, basically a high quality Vaseline type cream which is smeared over the first half of the mould to prevent the second half from bonding to it, and also a tub of casting talcum. This is designed to be brushed over the open parts of the hollow mould before the metal is poured. The powder contains lycopodium (whatever the hell that is) which increases the flow rate of the metal allowing it to flow into every little detail on the mould.
For the second half I reduced the 40 drops to 30, even so I still found the mixture beginning to cure far short of the stated five minutes and it was a rush to get the stuff into the mould box in time again. I just managed it although the pouring channel did have a gap up one end. With the second half in place I put the mould to one side and got on with one of the many other tasks which are now running side by side on this model. After a few minutes I checked on the mould and the rubber was virtually set. Turning back to the workbench my eyes fastened on the jar of releasing agent – the still unopened releasing agent! What a complete Plonker! In my haste to finish the mould I’d completely forgotten to smear the cream over the first half of the rubber! I probably had a beautiful mould in there, whether it would ever see the light of day again was another matter!
There was no point in waiting until the following day, the longer the rubber cured, the stronger it would be stuck together so I attempted (without much hope of success) to prise the two halves apart. The result can be seen in Photo 5. As it happened, it did eventually come apart, not perfectly as you can see and with the aid of some careful razor bladeing but all may not be lost! The lumpy part in the centre of the mould is where the two halves did not separate cleanly and in fact the second half has torn itself here which has partially buried the arm sections of the spuds but with a single razor slice along the dotted lines and a little flexing of the rubber block the entire hollow mould is accessible. I’m hoping with the application of the talcum into the gaps the mould can still be usable. I’ll now have to wait until the weekend to give it a try (to fully cure) and if successful, I’ll post the result early next week. If it doesn’t work, all three plastic spuds survived intact to try again! (This time with the new pot of rubber!)
So that’s where the moulding epic stands at present, as I mentioned, other parts are now running in tandem, with the wicker work almost there, some wooden plank walls coming together, more corrugated iron on the way and, most time consuming of all, the internal structure of the cut away MkIVs getting measured, designed and constructed (it took me an entire evening to construct one side of the radiator system! Mind you, it looks good!)BigGrin
The next instalment then will either be the successful field of spuds or one of the many other ‘ready to print’ topics lining up for posting!

Until then, happy building to you all!


Robin.
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Thanks Stevie! The Saga continues!Blink

Spud Update…

This is just a quickie to update the progress on the spud moulding front! The mould I constructed last week ‘sort of’ worked. If you remember, I wasn’t too happy with the mould, suffering as it did from ‘premature curing’ syndrome but I thought I’d give it a try anyway.
The very first casting did in fact produce a single spud out of the three, which I was very happy with. If it meant casting just one at a time I could live with that, but, try as I might I just couldn’t get the damned mould to produce any more! I tried upping the temperature of the metal to make it runnier, tried adding more of the special talcum to the inside but no joy so now here’s the third and final attempt before I accept having to make them all by hand!Crying
In Photo 1 you can see that I’m now hedging all my bets with a trio of different spud designs. The one on the left is the original version (well it worked once dinnit!). The middle one is the same as before but with an extra width of spine, which passes right down the full length at the back. This essentially doubles the thickness of the arm section which should help the molten metal to pass down through the mould. If this works, I’ll have to slice off the extra white metal in the spine to return the moulding to the correct thickness but this is still much less work than making each one up from plasticard. The last one on the right is going the other way. I’ve glued a flat plate of plastic onto the edge of the spade part and built the central spine onto that. Again, if this works out, I’ll have to trim the extra flat part back to the dimensions of the original spud, but that’s no big job either and any trimmings go right back into the melting pot again so no wastage at all.Cool
And now onto the mould (MkIII). For this one I opened up the brand new tin of rubber and taking no chances, again measured out the 50gm and added the reduced 30 drops of catalyst. What a difference! I got my full five minutes of pot life all right, I was able to pour the syrupy mixture into the mould box where it took up the perfectly flat surface into which I was able to gently sink the spuds, attached to their wooden block together with the flow reservoir block and a smaller wooden block to form one locating peg for the second half. All this can be seen in Photo 2.
Then the worrying began! As I said, I got my five minute pot life. I also got my one hour pot life and by evening time I’d had my two hour pot life as well! Since the prescribed dose of catalyst was 40 drops I was beginning to think I’d seriously under done the catalyst and the flaming stuff was going to remain a soft gloopy mess forever! Blink Fortunately, (a huge sigh of relief) after leaving the stuff alone until early afternoon today I found the remnant in the mixing pot had turned into a solid skin and the mould itself had gone hard too. I had hoped that being a chemical reaction, the catalyst would eventually work which it appears to have done. This leads me to think that all the previous problems were in fact down to the old tin of rubber having exceeded its shelf life (plus the summer temperatures which didn’t help).
I’m now going to give the first half another twenty four hours to completely cure and then do the upper half (WITH the releasing agent this time!) and then give it another shot. Hopefully third time lucky!
Just to show what I’m actually trying to achieve, Photo 3 illustrates the one and only ‘good spud’ sitting on the tracks of the first MkIV. Notice the sixth link in front and behind the spud has had the rivets filed away. This is to help the (eventual) spuds to sit flat on the track and will be repeated all around the track length.
That’s it then for this update, it’ll be nearly the weekend again before I can attempt casting, so midweek I’ll be putting up the next ‘proper’ instalment which will be the continuation of the Wicker tutorial and how to turn your melted plastic into wood. Now where’s me wand gone!BigGrin

Bye till then.

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really enjoying watching this and some great process explanation

this is going to look awesome Cool
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Hi Robin, perseverance is a wonderful trait and you obviously have it in abundance..... Excellent work to achieve the desired results no matter how many attempts it took..... Your work is an inspiration to me..... Love Love .. Very well done...

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Thanks again to Jase and Alan, much appreciated I can tell you!Blushing Things are ticking along fairly smoothly, silly bits of tank track not withstanding!Blink
At the moment the most awesome bit will be getting it completed in time!!BigGrin

Part Twenty Eight : Wickering (from start to finish) Update

The first instalment on the wicker work process was basically a tutorial on ‘how to do it’ and I left you with a ‘sneak preview’ of a finished section of trench lining. In this follow up I’ll fill in the ‘how it was done’ together with the final steps taken to turn the freebie plastic sprue panel into a ‘proper’ wooden wicker fence – namely, the paint job!
In Photo 1 you can see the unadorned section of the foam board base complete with its shell hole. This is the section in the extreme bottom left hand corner (as seen from the trenches) and the gap visible on the right is the space where the concrete bunker fits in. The actual edge of the fence was marked in some time ago as you can see, in front of that line will be the drainage ditch and covering duckboards.
The other thing you might notice is that all the posts stuck into the white foam are very regular in size! This is because I changed a little bit from the tutorial! I found that making the thicker posts from the sprue dramatically reduces the amount of length produced and so I decided to get a pack of Plastruct 1.1mm round rod instead Pack No. 90856. As well as the wicker, it’s also finding uses in the tank interiors too!BigGrin
In Photo 2 the first two stretched sprue filaments are in place and after this point it just becomes a very repetitive action with lots of “Inside” and “Outside” muttered under my breath which quickly becomes just “In” and “Out” and then becomes totally silent until I suddenly ‘miss a stitch’ and then it all starts verbal again.
Photo 3 illustrates the first ‘stopping point’. At this stage the fence is about a third of an inch high and this is as far as I go before bonding the whole thing together. As described in the tutorial, Humbrol Liquid Poly is simply brushed on using the integral bottle brush paying special attention to the posts and the crossover point of the filaments mid way between them. There is no need to wait for the glue to dry however and the next filaments can go in right after the brushing.
In Photo 4, the fence panel is just about there for height. This is the point when I add a few shorter lengths to break up the top edge of the wicker, which gives it a more natural appearance.
With the fence panel now complete it is gently up-rooted from the main base and pushed back down into a scrap strip of foam as seen in the final two Photos. I was quite pleased with the composite top photo, it is composed of different shots of the same fence taken at the various stages but it really links up into one ‘panoramic’ view very well!
Section A is the plain grey of the bare plastic stretched sprue as in Photo 4.
Section B is after the first undercoat of Citadel Spearstaff Brown
Section C is again slightly different from the first tutorial. In that one I just gave the wicker a second coat of Spearstaff Brown, but for the ‘real’ section I decided to alter that to attempt to match the chemically weathered wooden planks more closely. The colour seen here is a mixture of Citadel Spearstaff Brown as before but with about 40% addition of a cream coloured artists acrylic. Its from a range made by “docrafts” (I’ve never heard of them either!) which I picked up in the art section in our local ‘Chaplins’ Superstore (for those in the Plymouth area!). Its not a bad paint though and at £1.25 for 2oz (nearly four times the Citadel or Admiralty pot size) its darned good value. On top of which the stuff's made just up the road in Dorset so it must be good!Cool To this was added a brush load of Admiralty Walnut. As you can see in the photo, it gives a less yellowy, more ‘woody’ brown tinge.
Section D is after a thinned down wash of the Humbrol Dark Brown Enamel Wash to bring out the shadows and re-define the individual withys and the final photo, Section E shows the whole thing after the wash had dried and a highlighting drybrush of first a mixture of Spearstaff, Walnut and Admiralty White, followed by a final drybrush of Citadel Celestra Grey (as used for the figure undercoating) to produce the ‘weathered grey’ effect as seen on the real wooden parts. Unfortunately my camera doesn’t pick out that grey too well for some reason, but I must admit it is pretty subtle!
The actual wicker production is almost complete now with just a long low section which fronts one of the fire steps to finish. Once that’s done, all the sections will be removed and painted up together. The main wooden plank section of the trench (Code Name: The Wooden Wall) has also been virtually completed with a much smaller wooden section on the extreme right of the trenches to start and that just leaves the corrugated iron sections to put together. I did have a good half dozen sheets all done but I keep pinching some of them to cut up for the roof of the bunker! Still, with the paint remover proving so successful, making up the rest of mum’s Lacri-lube tubes into sheets will be half the work of the first batch! After I've made sure they're empty of course!
I made up the second half of the tank Spud mould this morning, (before it got too hot in the attic!) and it seems to have gone as well as the first section; poured out nicely and flowed into all the places it was supposed to. This should be fully cured by the weekend so I’ll be trying to cast the damned things again with hopefully more than just the one to show for it.
The next mould or moulds I make up will be for the first of the metal figures (discounting the other ‘first one’ in the first spud mould) and I’m also going to scratch build the German heavy machine gun and trench mortars using photos and the polythene ones as guides. If they come out well enough, I might just make moulds of them too. (Well you never know!)
Part Twenty Nine will be returning to the bunker for a quick update on some other ‘items’ for the interior, and if the weekend is successful, a final solution to the Spuds!Glare

Happy Modelling ‘till then!


Robin
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You have the patience of a saint LOL Looks great ThumpUp
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Fabulous Robin, looking so realistic..... Credit to your skills....Love Love

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Many thanks once again to Alan, Stevie and Mr T! (Though I'm not sure if the Saints would be allowed to use the kind of language I sometimes have to resort to!!)BigGrin
I think I may have mentioned a post or two ago about scratch building the trench mortar to a higher standard. I then realised that I didn't actually have anywhere wide enough in the trenches to set the thing up so another little 're-design' has been completed, coming soon(ish) "The Mortar / Heavy Weapons Fire Pit"!Blink

Additional: Sunday’s Spudding Results.

Another ‘quickie’ update, the full instalment and return to the bunker will be coming midweek!
On Sunday I tried out the third Spud mould, (the one with the three different designs) and the results were – interesting!Blink During the casting I did discover that almost half the depth of the white metal in the melting pot was taken up with a crumbly horrible waste slag mixture which might have been interfering with the quality of the metal (it certainly blocked up the dispensing tap which I’ve now cleared with the help of an old staple!) and I have now managed to scrape and, (once cool again) vacuum the stuff away so maybe the next session will be easier.
Of the three designs, only the middle one with the enlarged central spine would play ball, the one I thought would perform well with the flat extended plate didn’t want to know at all! I might try and cut away a slice of the plate to thicken it and see if that works any better, but the middle mould has been producing Spuds at the rate of one good one every two or three castings. As you can see in the first photo on the left, the quality is, shall we say, ‘variable’, but I think it’s worth persevering until I have enough for the four sets of tracks required, it will take considerably longer than I’d hoped but should be worth it in the end as can be seen on the second photo (the Spuds are again just balanced on the tracks in this shot). The best quality ones will be kept for the top run of track and the so-so ones will be relegated to the ground section.
If I was making a model of the MkIV to be displayed on a polished wooden plinth, I’d probably forget the whole idea of casting and simply make them all from plasticard like the mould originals but since they are going to be churning up the Messines mud (a lot more churning up than I’d originally planned I have to admit!) they will still ‘look the part’!BigGrin
On the subject of mud, (this is for Stevie), I recently found another book on the MkIV from Osprey Publishing called “British Mark IV Tank” by David Fletcher (and got it cheaper on Amazon too!Cool). Many of the photos in it are the same as in the Haynes Manual (some are a little clearer though) and there are some very good illustrations in it too! Anyway, mud! Apparently, according to the text and a photo, these tanks used to pick up a characteristic thick line of mud about 18” wide and up to 6-8” deep, along the roof of the sponsons right up against the hull. It makes sense, the tracks pick up the soft mud which is carried along the top run of track falling off bit by bit and the only place it can’t drop back on to the ground is over the sponsons! A good bit of ‘authenticity’ to add to dioramas!Cool

Be back midweek with some more ‘micro’ woodwork!

Bye ‘till then and Happy Modelling.

Robin
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