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Whizgig wrote:I know how you fell George I am 50 I have manic Bipolar Hsp and Sundowners syndrome ( like Dementia) I am like doing this for my sanity lol Hi Whizgig.  I have not been diagnosed with anything yet, but I just have a personal thought about keeping the mind active will help ward off some things like forgetfulness etc. That why I have a PS3 and play a lot of shooting type games as well as building this SOTS. I also wrote a number of books. Mainly "Shoot 'em genres". Not that it makes me any money as I'm only one of hundred's of thousands with ebooks/ibooks on the internet.  I can do no more than wish you all the best mate for the future with your problems. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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Pinks666 wrote:hi,
this is great, I have just spent the last 15 mins pouring over the build posts, very much impressed.
I know what you mean about waiting for new issues, it seems to take an age for them to come, but I suppose that is part of the fun of building these.
I will be eagerly following this.
Regards
Marc Hi Pink. Thanks for looking in and commenting. It's appreciated.  You're very welcome to look in anytime. If I can ever be a help let me know. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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Ponty wrote:your ship is looking very nice George! Hi Ponty. Thanks for looking in and your kind comments very much appreciated. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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Hi George, thought I would also post my reply to your question on your diary as I know you have a lot of followers from your neck of the woods and also just in case you do not visit my diary again soon and miss my response.... Hi Alan. BigGrin Looking stunning as expected. Cool Cool Hard to imagine a better build of SOTS. You really have excelled in the build. Cool Cool While I'm on your thread can I indulge re a couple of queries?BigGrin I notice your eyelets are black and as all this brass ware is only anodized metal and won't take a burnisher unless anodizing gone, is there a chemical that removes this anodizing rather than filing off as I've had to do re launch mesh. Would appreciate knowing as I really would like all brass ware that doesn't have to show as such to be black re the cannon fittings and all eyelets etc. I know ships those days had no brass ware or very little if they did as everything iron other than maybe bronze cannons and I'm not sure about those.Confused The other query is regarding the stern. As planks have been laid I've left a rough overhang as I filled in. Can this overhang be taken off level with the stern line or does some overhang have to stay. I think I saw somewhere 2mm overhang but not sure. Thought I would do this while waiting on planks next issue if I know what has to be done.Confused Regards George Thanks George, your kind comments are most welcome... Just home from work and read your post so thought I'd give a quick reply before getting down to some chores.. I tend to use two products available here, one is Krick and the other is blacken-it, both burnishing solutions and have found both to be equally as good. In order to get the best results I simply followed the thread posted by Magpie, the information he and others give here are well worth reading up on.. Here is the link to his thread.... http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=5468 All the cannons provided are not brass but cast metal so painting is the answer here.. Instructions say to paint bronze but I went down the route of metal black... Regarding the stern, the 2mm overhang on all the planks down both sides of the stern piece are needed so don't go cutting them flush with the stern. The 2mm overhang on both sides will create a slot down the length of the stern, into this slot you will fit the stern post to which the rudder will be attached.. By leaving the 2mm overhang you will end up with a much neater finish line up the entire length of the stern post.. The fitting of the stern post I covered from around page 68 of my diary.... Hope this all helps but if you need any more info then please get back to me... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Hi George, thought I would also post my reply to your question on your diary as I know you have a lot of followers from your neck of the woods and also just in case you do not visit my diary again soon and miss my response.... Hi Alan. BigGrin Looking stunning as expected. Cool Cool Hard to imagine a better build of SOTS. You really have excelled in the build. Cool Cool While I'm on your thread can I indulge re a couple of queries?BigGrin I notice your eyelets are black and as all this brass ware is only anodized metal and won't take a burnisher unless anodizing gone, is there a chemical that removes this anodizing rather than filing off as I've had to do re launch mesh. Would appreciate knowing as I really would like all brass ware that doesn't have to show as such to be black re the cannon fittings and all eyelets etc. I know ships those days had no brass ware or very little if they did as everything iron other than maybe bronze cannons and I'm not sure about those.Confused The other query is regarding the stern. As planks have been laid I've left a rough overhang as I filled in. Can this overhang be taken off level with the stern line or does some overhang have to stay. I think I saw somewhere 2mm overhang but not sure. Thought I would do this while waiting on planks next issue if I know what has to be done.Confused Regards George Thanks George, your kind comments are most welcome... Just home from work and read your post so thought I'd give a quick reply before getting down to some chores.. I tend to use two products available here, one is Krick and the other is blacken-it, both burnishing solutions and have found both to be equally as good. In order to get the best results I simply followed the thread posted by Magpie, the information he and others give here are well worth reading up on.. Here is the link to his thread.... http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=5468 All the cannons provided are not brass but cast metal so painting is the answer here.. Instructions say to paint bronze but I went down the route of metal black... Regarding the stern, the 2mm overhang on all the planks down both sides of the stern piece are needed so don't go cutting them flush with the stern. The 2mm overhang on both sides will create a slot down the length of the stern, into this slot you will fit the stern post to which the rudder will be attached.. By leaving the 2mm overhang you will end up with a much neater finish line up the entire length of the stern post.. The fitting of the stern post I covered from around page 68 of my diary.... Hope this all helps but if you need any more info then please get back to me... Regards Alan Hi Alan. Thanks so much for replying to my queries re your thread and here. It really is very decent of you to go to that much trouble and is very much appreciated. I'm glad I asked about the stern planking as I know now just how important leaving that 2mm is for fitting of the stern post as you've described. Will also eagerly look up that "Magpie" URL re burnishing. Thanks again it is appreciated greatly. Will also look up your page 68 your diary. Thanks mate. Regards George PS. Hi Alan if you look in; The URL is only half alive and won't take me there re "Magpie".Building HMS SOTS
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Hi George, try this to Magpie's thread... http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=5468
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Hi Alan. Checked out Magpie's URL. I have the blackener, but will need to purchase the Isopropyl Alcohol do do the job as described. Will recheck once I have the gear to ensure I follow procedure. Thanks heaps for the URL it certainly gives me some hope now of blackening that anodized material. Have already cut stern overhangs to 2 mm length straight in line with the stern. Looks much neater too now. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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Hi George In the past i have used mostly the 'Krick' blackener which has worked very well most of the time but sometimes it wont quite go off so well and appears blotchy and not an overall even black colour. As you probably already know from reading the instructions this is a chemical reaction type fluid and its the temperature that is most important to get the reaction to work. So what i have learned to do if the reaction is blotchy or patchy is this, put your metal work and its container into a microwave cooker and heat at medium to high power for 1 minute then leave to await the reaction, just repeat until you get the desired effect/colour. Regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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arpurchase wrote: Hi George In the past i have used mostly the 'Krick' blackener which has worked very well most of the time but sometimes it wont quite go off so well and appears blotchy and not an overall even black colour. As you probably already know from reading the instructions this is a chemical reaction type fluid and its the temperature that is most important to get the reaction to work. So what i have learned to do if the reaction is blotchy or patchy is this, put your metal work and its container into a microwave cooker and heat at medium to high power for 1 minute then leave to await the reaction, just repeat until you get the desired effect/colour. Regards Andy Hi Andy. Thanks for the above information on blackening. It is very much appreciated. Anything that makes it easier than filing off anodizing to get the blackener to work is most welcome. I will later put my results on this thread once I do the job. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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Issue 21 came on time. Have gone past current issue. Have now put 12 rows of planks bow to stern. (looks like 11 but pointed strake just on corner re a full plank to rear.) And 8 rows on hull bottom. Again ran out of planks to go further. Used all in issue.  Pics below where I am to date.      Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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you are doing well with the planking George
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Whizgig wrote:you are doing well with the planking George Hi Whizgig. Thanks, it's appreciated. Getting there slowly. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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Hi Alan if you look in. Managed to purchase that Isopropyl Alcohol (.5 Ltr Squirt bottle) so will try to see if I'm successful blackening anodized pieces I have following instruction by "Magpie". Will put up pics if successful later. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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Lovely work on the planking George well done m8  Rgd Martyn Building ?
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That planking is really coming along nicely now George, Well done Steve
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Martyn Ingram wrote: Lovely work on the planking George well done m8 Rgd Martyn Hi Martyn. Thanks for looking in and your kind comments. It is greatly appreciated. Slowly getting there. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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stevie_o wrote:That planking is really coming along nicely now George, Well done Steve Hi Steve. Thanks for the compliments. They are as always greatly appreciated. I just wish there were more planks in the issues. Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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George1 wrote:Hi Alan if you look in. Managed to purchase that Isopropyl Alcohol (.5 Ltr Squirt bottle) so will try to see if I'm successful blackening anodized pieces I have following instruction by "Magpie". Will put up pics if successful later. Regards George Hi George, I try to look in every day to yours and your fellow builders diaries from down under.. You've done a great job with the planking and the stern looks spot on.... Good luck with the blackening, its all about trial and error and I'm sure you will get there in the end... Look forward to your next post so until then, keep up the great work.... Regards Alan
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Hi George Your planking is looking really good and way ahead of mine, which is good because I can pick your brain. I have 8 bottom planks in (4 each side) and having a bit of trouble keeping the plank stuck flat at the very end of the keel. I pin nail it and clamp it flat against the keel for at least 24 hours after gluing, but when I remove the clamp, the plank gradually lifts up one edge. I know it's caused by the 90deg twist in the plank, so did you have the same problem?  I've tried soaking and steam ironing the plank as well as cutting lots of grooves in it. Can you advise how you overcame this problem? The keel planking on your model looks terrific... Regards JohnP
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Gandale wrote:George1 wrote:Hi Alan if you look in. Managed to purchase that Isopropyl Alcohol (.5 Ltr Squirt bottle) so will try to see if I'm successful blackening anodized pieces I have following instruction by "Magpie". Will put up pics if successful later. Regards George Hi George, I try to look in every day to yours and your fellow builders diaries from down under.. You've done a great job with the planking and the stern looks spot on.... Good luck with the blackening, its all about trial and error and I'm sure you will get there in the end... Look forward to your next post so until then, keep up the great work.... Regards Alan Hi Alan. Thanks for your kind words on my build. They are as always greatly appreciated and certainly gives me encouragement. Now I have run out of planks again I will try to get into that burnishing now I have the ingredients. Will post some pics re results later.  Regards George Building HMS SOTS
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