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Mike Turpin
#21 Posted : 19 August 2010 18:09:38

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I like the idea of the cutaway bulldog clip, looks like I will have to consider that. I know where you are coming from, I just thought a reminder about shaping the planks even in the middle of the hull was worth a reminder.

BTW I reckon your graphics are spot on, what software were you using?

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#22 Posted : 20 August 2010 00:45:37

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Mike Turpin wrote:
I like the idea of the cutaway bulldog clip, looks like I will have to consider that. I know where you are coming from, I just thought a reminder about shaping the planks even in the middle of the hull was worth a reminder.

BTW I reckon your graphics are spot on, what software were you using?

Mike T


It was good of you to bring the point up, it was only after I read what I had put, did I realise it was a bad example, but between you, Collin and myself I think we managed to make three points, so a winner all ways lol

Thanks for the prais on the graphics, I love doodling etc but need loads of practice. Im using Abode Photoshop 7, my wife bought it for me when I was trying to take up Photography, but the science of the hobby completely blew me away Blink LOL It's a good programe, I usually use it for making forum Graphics for a few sites I invade.

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Some clan medals



Some forum buttons







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#23 Posted : 20 August 2010 10:11:08

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It was good of you to bring the point up, it was only after I read what I had put, did I realise it was a bad example, but between you, Collin and myself I think we managed to make three points, so a winner all ways lol


It's good to see three crew mates working together, especially if others can get something out of it.BigGrin

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Tsh Tsh never would have expected of you !!! Glare LOL LOL


You must be rich I can't afford Photoshop but find that Photoshop Elements is just as good for my purposes.

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#24 Posted : 20 August 2010 10:19:16

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Mike Turpin wrote:
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It was good of you to bring the point up, it was only after I read what I had put, did I realise it was a bad example, but between you, Collin and myself I think we managed to make three points, so a winner all ways lol


It's good to see three crew mates working together, especially if others can get something out of it.BigGrin

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PS Sorry for going well of topic Blushing



Tsh Tsh never would have expected of you !!! Glare LOL LOL


You must be rich I can't afford Photoshop but find that Photoshop Elements is just as good for my purposes.

Mike T



Sorry Mike Blushing I will be feeling guilty all day now LOL

Trust me I'm not rich, the wife might be as I haven't seen my wallet for over a year now LOL We got a copy from PC World a couple of months back, it was on sale for £59
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#25 Posted : 20 August 2010 10:23:10

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I guess it must be Photoshop Elements 7 otherwise PC World are being far more generous than I would have expected! It covers 95% of the features in Photoshop but is only a fraction of the price.

Either way you are getting the results!!! Drool Drool

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#26 Posted : 21 August 2010 11:27:27

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Continuing on from the fairing of the hull and as mentioned before about laying a plank across the frames, these pictures show what a bulldog clip can achieve.

I got these pretty cheap and the idea really as mentioned is to help hold the planks in place until the glue has set, as I did with my bounty hull originally was to hold with my fingers, as you can expect this caused a lot of problems namely super gluing the tips of my fingers to the wood, not good!

These can be used when fairing as the example below shows.


The clip, 3 clips makes 2, the pictures shows how its done.



There is not a massive amount of tension onto the wood being held, but more than enough to hold the plank in place.


Another option is to keep the clip as it is and add a small bit of wood to hold the plank down.


I've just layed this down as an example following the lower deck.


This picture show frame 15, as mentioned before this needs to be faired/sanded quite a bit, small bits at a time and re check.


Its another option especially if you don't want to have nail holes in the wood.
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Are the nails only used as part of the construction rather than as part of the final look?

I will be painting mine so I assume the nails won't showing anyway so if I can get away without using them the better.

John
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if you use the brass pins,don't knock 'em right in.so they can be removed later,
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#31 Posted : 22 August 2010 05:31:30

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im so using this idea when i eventually get to that stage, that is if my next delivery turns up okay lol.
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#32 Posted : 22 August 2010 09:51:45

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Damn good idea Colin..where did you get the clips from??....much obliged...Drool
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Thanks for the reply's but this wasn't my idea, I've seen it used before but never had a bash.

this is where I got them from -
£3 for 50 Black 19mm Foldback/Bulldog Clips - BRAND NEW

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50...tionery_ET#ht_532wt_911

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Thanks a lot Colin, it's just that you posted pics of them up here, and its the first time I've seen em used that way..still a brill idea though mate...I will certainly get some myself...cheers pal...ThumpUp
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#35 Posted : 22 August 2010 15:56:07

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karl1113 wrote:
if you use the brass pins,don't knock 'em right in.so they can be removed later,

But won't the holes need filling then?

John
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z8000783 wrote:
karl1113 wrote:
if you use the brass pins,don't knock 'em right in.so they can be removed later,

But won't the holes need filling then?

John



Hi John,

I think the usual practise is to knock the pins part way in to hold the plank while the glue sets and then cut the heads off with side cutters and then sand down. If this is wrong someone please correct me.

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most stationry stores will sell various quantities and sized clips. its also worth looking in your local pound shops if you dont have an ebay and paypal account and dont like to wait on the post.
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secretreeve wrote:
most stationry stores will sell various quantities and sized clips. its also worth looking in your local pound shops if you dont have an ebay and paypal account and dont like to wait on the post.



True, pound shops are a great place to look for tools and stationery. I've had some great little finds in these. My last was a set of 8 little plastic clamps. Always worth looking in them before forking out more anywhere else.BigGrin
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