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Hi Alan. Superp job on your gun port lids. Look forward to seeimg your progress Ian Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood. Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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Good job there Alan, she already looks great and I'm sure she look fantastic when done. Rgds, Hans "It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully" Current Build: Endeavour Cross section,D51 Completed: HMS Victory Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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Hi Alan What did you use as eyelets for your gunport lids, is that part of the etch kit or something else, i was thinking of using some very small fish-hook eyes ? Paul Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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ian smith wrote:Hi Alan. Superp job on your gun port lids. Look forward to seeimg your progress Ian Hi Ian, Thanks for your comments, much appreciated. Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Hans wrote:Good job there Alan, she already looks great and I'm sure she look fantastic when done. Hi Hans, Thanks for your comments, much appreciated. Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Gibbo wrote:Hi Alan What did you use as eyelets for your gunport lids, is that part of the etch kit or something else, i was thinking of using some very small fish-hook eyes ? Paul Hi Paul, Have sent you a PM Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Alan Some very nice re-work taking place here. Never an easy task on a completed kit but you seem to be doing very well. Happy modelling Tony Happy Modelling
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birdaj2 wrote:Alan
Some very nice re-work taking place here. Never an easy task on a completed kit but you seem to be doing very well.
Happy modelling
Tony Hi Tony, Thanks for your comments, much appreciated. Unfortunately my Victory is nowhere near finished, even though I've been doing it on and off for about 10 years But I am in the process of upgrading some of the previously completed works, and as you say, its not an easy task. But I like a challenge Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Hi all, Back after another long absence, but haven't been completely idle Finally finished the gun port refurbishment on the starboard side. So that's all the gun ports completed. So decided to turn my attention to the channels. As you may recall I had already made the channels and deadeyes some years back. I didn't like the idea of just gluing them to the hull edge on as there would be some tension on them when ratlines are installed. So I made some small locating pins from 0.8mm brass rod, and drilled 0.8mm holes in the rear edge of the channel. Below is the portside main channel, the brass strip at the top of the picture is basically a set square made from a piece of PE sprue so that I could glue them square to the hull sides, as every proper square I have was too large. I fitted the three main channels, (fore, main and mizzen) to the port side and it was only when I came to fit the smaller channel aft of the mizzen, I realised there wasn't enough room to fit it between the mizzen channel and the aft most gunport where it should be. PANIC On further investigation I realised that I would have trouble fitting some of the chain plates on all the channels as the deadeyes clashed with some of the gunport locations. As already mentioned, I'd made these channels years ago, I must have got the dimensions, layout etc from somewhere, I doubt I would have followed the Del Prado instructions and I definitely wouldn't have guessed it !! Upon checking drawing and plans, It became clear that the main channel was too short, and the fore and mizzen units were too long ! Only one course of action The above photo is the result of removing the fore channel, some damage to the hull and minor damage to a couple of gun port lids, the others were a similar story, nothing that can't be sorted I must admit that the brass pin method of fixing was very good, the channels split into pieces as I was rocking and twisting them up and down with pliers trying to loosen their grip on the hull Well, a lesson learnt, at least it will give me the opportunity to do a "making the channels" section on the build log Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Some lovely work there Alan! I know the 'do it again' feeling all too well and I also prefer to add those brass re-inforcing pins too. Theoretically the chains should 'take the strain' as in the original but theories don't seem to work very well in 1/100 scale!! I still have the main channels to do yet and I'll probably be using the McGowan book again for the dimensions but I might have to employ a little 'tweaking' when it comes to drilling the holes to place the deadeyes - those gun ports do crop up in the most awkward places underneath! Great work though and really nice to see you back again! Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Thanks Robin, Well, I was "working" from home today, didn't get much invoicing done But made a start on the new channels, so here is the work so far. Started with some pieces of 1.5mm thick hard wood sheet that I've had since starting this build, in fact, its the material I used to make the previous,(now infamous )set of channels, but in those days it was 1/16 inch thick . I've used it for various other projects over the years, but still have a bit left. Using the various books and drawings I have, I converted the information to 1/100 scale, double checking I had it right this time , then marked out and cut 2 sets of channels from the pieces of hard wood I have. Each pair was then clamped together before final shaping to make sure they were pretty much identical. Below is one set of shaped channels. Although I have marked these for the port side, at this stage they could be either. Offering them up into position on the hull, I marked the positions of the gun ports on the channels, ports below marked on the front edge, ports above marked on the rear edge. Then, again using plans etc, set out the deadeyes on the channels, marking the centre of each one and double checking that the chain plate below or the shroud above would not conflict with the gun port openings or anything else. Once I was happy that all was OK, I grooved out the front edge of the channel to take the deadeye strops. I started with the starboard side fore channel as most of the books I have show a good detail of that one. Next I fitted the strops to the walnut deadeyes and glued them in position on the channel. The largest are 5mm, then 3mm and 2mm. I am using the PE strops from the same manufacturer that produced the gun port hinges etc, and they come with all the chain plates too. As you can see, the very small ones need some tweaking, as this PE set was made to enhance the Heller Victory kit which I assume doesn't have the smaller deadeyes. But I can sort that out. Then I adapted and fitted the brass edging piece that I had salvaged from the first set. In this case, it had to be made shorter by cutting a section out and butting together, the new main channel edging will have to be extended. Below is a photo of the old and new channels showing the difference in length. Also notice, the old one is narrower, I can only think that I did the originals from a plan view and was fooled by the projecting hammock crane platform above it. In the detail above you can see a couple of ring hooks in use at the aft end of the channel, so they were fitted next, I also have other drawings that show additional rings on all the channels so I have added them too, even if they don't get used they will look good Finally, a couple of coats of Admiralty black paint. On the deadeys themselves, I have used ebony wood stain as its a bit thinner and, although I have already positioned the deadeyes, will allow me to rotate them easier. Now I just have to construct the rest, and I'll be back to where I was last week Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Lovely work Alan, a real credit to you..... Regards Alan
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Excellent job there Alan, most interesting tutorial. Well done. Looks great. Rgds, Hans "It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully" Current Build: Endeavour Cross section,D51 Completed: HMS Victory Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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Hi Alam. great job. nice touch with the extra ring bolts. Iasn Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood. Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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Thanks Alan, Hans and Ian for your comments, much appreciated. Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Hi all, Another progress report on the channels, continuing on the starboard side with the main channel. As stated earlier, this had to be made longer than the original one I did years back, and I have used 5mm and 3mm walnut deadeyes, as with the fore channel. As with all the channels, I have salvaged the brass front edging profile and adapted it to suite the new lengths. A feature on the main channels are the brackets for the lower main studding sail (or stunsail) boom. The picture above shows the boom in stowed position. When in use, it was lifted from the rear "rest" bracket and swung out on the front "hinge" bracket, 90 degrees to the hull, to form the lower spar for the main stunsail. Below is another detail drawing. I had previously made these brackets (for my first set of channels), from copper strips bent to shape, and again have manages to salvage them for use on the new versions. Next the ring bolts were fitted. They are made from 0.7 X 10mm brass eyelets cut down in length. On my first set, I only used the eyelets, but this time around I have added 3mm brass rings to make them more realistic. Having to make this second set has allowed me to improve on the originals. Checking drawings and plans, it seems the deadeyes on the mizzen channels are slightly smaller than the largest (5mm) ones on the fore and main channels. Originally, I used 5mm for these too, as I could not find (or they were not made then) 4mm deadeyes, and I didn't want to drop as low as 3mm. This time however, I've located some 4mm ones, and used them for the new mizzen channels. Finally (at last I hear you say )we come to the two small auxiliary channels that sit aft and above the main and mizzen channels. For these I have use 3mm and 2mm deadeyes. Below is the finished starboard channel set. I have also completed the port side channels and will return with another update when I have them fitted to the hull. Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Lovely work Alan....
Regards
Alan
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Lovely detail Alan and a fantastic diary, look forward to more Steve
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Thanks Alan and Steve for your comments. Much appreciated. Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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Hi all, Due to family and other commitments, I doubt that I will be doing much on the build over the festive season, so just a short note to wish you all A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEARThanks for all your comments and encouragement over the past year. Kind regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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