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Hi KP Not sure if you gave the parts a good wash with warm soapy water first then a primer? The release agents in the mould could be reacting to the paint your using..have a look at my build of the same kit... http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=8740
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Yeah spencer when I stripped the paint off with oven cleaner I would have thought that would have removed any release agent I did wash it the first time I painted it, tbh it doesn't look like a grease problem it actually looks like the paint is eating into the plastic, I am using Humbrol enamels, never had a problem with Humbrol before.If barrier coat doesn't work don't know what to do after that, not had this problem with the Monkeemobile which I am building at the same time so it's not the thinners or anything in the air, I wonder if Polar Lights uses a different type of plastic, never built one of their kits before, loathe as I am to do it I may have to try acrylics, I hate them, they are so soft you can't handle the model after without taking the paint off. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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I don't use enamels KP but that's down to personal preference. For any type of car body I tend to use Halfords grey or white primer and allowed to thoroughly dry, followed by a coat of the colour. Once completely dry ( a few days ) a rub down with Micromesh to get rid of any imperfections. Another coat of the colour then Micromesh again followed by a lacquer coat. With batmobile I did I used Halfords matt black, decalled then a lacquer coat over the top. Spencer
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HI KP I use enamels a lot so some tips from me.
Have you tried thinning the paint? if so what with. You are best using a proper thinner made for the job I use the Humbrol thinner and it is good. bear in mind enamel thinners evaporate quicker than Acrylic thinners do.
If you haven't thinned the paint try that and as Spence says a rub down between paint layers with mocro-mesh to get any imperfections removed.
What are you using to prime with? I would be using halfords Grey on this. don't be tempted to use the Yellow with micro fillers it is to grainy for a car body finish in my opinion.
Spencer has done this car justice so take a look at that you could also look at the black fenders I did on Chitty Chitty Bang Band which also has a walk through on process. link is in my signature.
Jase“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Thanks jase and spencer I thin with white spirit as I have always and never had this problem before and I must have sprayed hundreds of models over the years, even my scratch built ships which would have been wood. All the info you have given me is very welcome and when I strip it again I will use your advice I use Halfords grey primer. I am really disappointed I've been looking forward to this build now the shine has gone off it a bit. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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KP Lots a really good suggestions and tips here. Could I maybe add could it be a "duff" tin of paint you have. It would be unusual but not unheard of. Maybe try changing to a new tin and see if that makes a difference. These set backs are disappointing but keep at it and I am sure you will be able to pull this one back on track. Happy Modelling
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birdaj2 wrote:KP
Lots a really good suggestions and tips here.
Could I maybe add could it be a "duff" tin of paint you have. It would be unusual but not unheard of.
Maybe try changing to a new tin and see if that makes a difference.
These set backs are disappointing but keep at it and I am sure you will be able to pull this one back on track.
Its a good point actually. it occurred to me while washing up but then i forgot again  must be getting old!!   “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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Thanks for the replys and suggestions I am actually out of gloss black now so when I get my new tin that will eliminate that possibility. I haven't given up on it yet but need some more oven cleaner and stuff. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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Ok all I know its been a long time since I updated this but its not been forgotten I have tried mr muscle, modelstrip and even nitromors and this is what ive got.      I've spent half the cost of the model on stuff to get the paint off. It doesn't show on the pics but there seem to be little holes in the paint that go right into the plastic, I think the paint has bonded with the plastic and actually soaked into it, which is why it wont come off so I think my only option is to sand it and try spraying it again I will just have to live with whatever the results are. its a shame as I was really looking forward to this one. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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Hi all well this is after one sanding and undercoating     I think I might be winning Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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Looks good to me  , did you manage to fill the small holes in the plastic or did the undercoat take care of them? Steve
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The undercoat seems to be working, still there a bit but I recon couple more coats should do it. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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Hi all giving up on this paint job its reacted again, so I'm going to do something different with it. Batman is forgotten all his wonderful gizmos and gadgets have fallen into disrepair, including his trusty old batmobile. That's going to be the back story on this model now. So will start tomorrow with a renewed enthusiasm for this build Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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Hi all well this is going back in the box and being buried at the very bottom of my stash. as I was warned the decals are awful and do break up but they also dont stick.    it must be a draught that moved the decal as I hadnt touched the model when I took these pics. so I have had it with this kit. I was going to do a dio of it on a dereclect street all rusty with weeds growing out of it but with no decals to show what it once was it would be a pointless dio, could be any car with no decals. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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