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daffy09
#1 Posted : 23 January 2015 00:34:04

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I have a question to ask about the shot locker in the cross-section build. It's not about the locker itself, more about it's use.
I'd love to know how it would have been used. There are hinged lids on the top, but surely the crew didn't have to reach what appears to be around 8 or 9 feet to get to the shot? How was it loaded and unloaded? i can't find an explanation anywhere. Is there some knowledgeable builder who can tell me?
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The shot lockers store around 80 ton of shot so the only way to consume that is to take from the top. they used what they called 'whips' which were nets on a block and tackle rig to hoist shout out of the lockers and up to the required deck.

I believe there was around another 40 tone of shot more forward in the ship near the grand magazine. Victory had 4 lockers and had to cary shot for 6 months as she could be provisioned for that long.

Hope that helps

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PS. When you hear sombody say "just whip that upstaires" you ehil know where tat term comes from now 😎😁
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#3 Posted : 23 January 2015 14:00:59

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Thanks Jase, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I had in my mind a picture of some rather muscular sailors standing in the hold humping cannonballs over their heads. I assume the grating on the orlop deck would have been removed to facilitate the use of the whips.
Thanks for the info and the little piece of terminology, I didn't know that - it's quite amazing how many things we use in our speech today that have a history in period naval terminology.
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daffy09 wrote:
Thanks Jase, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I had in my mind a picture of some rather muscular sailors standing in the hold humping cannonballs over their heads. I assume the grating on the orlop deck would have been removed to facilitate the use of the whips.
Thanks for the info and the little piece of terminology, I didn't know that - it's quite amazing how many things we use in our speech today that have a history in period naval terminology.
Happy building
David



No probe. your right about the history of terminology too but a lot comes from other periods too like the Tudor word for a table top a 'board' this one gives us

Board room ( the room which the tables is kept)
Board meeting (estate meetings were always held around the big table)
Head of the board (person in charge sat at the head of the table)
Sideboard ( when not in use the table was pushed to the side and decorated with the best plates)
Cupboard ( if you come to display your cups and tankards on it)
Treading the boards ( tables taken outside for traveling entertainers to use)
board stiff and board games (games played on the table top)

I think its fascinating personaly

J
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#5 Posted : 26 January 2015 09:03:21

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Thanks for that Jase. Thats very interesting. Good to know
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