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Your right Hoover, should of seen that as well, so the first one would be the better option.
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Some nice solutions here. I think most of the commercial ones are expensive and not quite man enough for the job on our model as it is 4ft long in old money (125cm?)I think I would rather spend the money on half a kit of another ship! By the way nice to have a lady in our midst.  I'm available Pam, in the hope that we would not have the problems of other couples on this site.
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Some very useful tips, it is most encouraging to see such expertise. I agree that before the full keel can be laid down, it will be a few issues down the line. Time enough to sort out which type of jig to use. TIS
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Having just read through all the posts on jigs there obviously alot of experience on the forum (which for a first timer is reassuring) and glad i will have somethineg to play around with whilst waiting for more parts to arrive!!!
cheers guys
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Good morning one and all I wonder if I am the only lady on the site. well boys I have built my first cannon and I defo need the magnifing glass ( excuse spelling) It is so tiny I was amazed thank you of you fellows for helping me. I am not a couple so I do need help Happy building Pam xx
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Hi Pam, No you are not the only lady on the site. My experience comes from plastic kits and latterly dolls house so looking forward to the challenge of a more detailed wooden ship build. I must agree with you about needing a magnifing glass. After seeing the scale of the cannon in my fist issue yesterdayI ordered a magnifing lamp so I dont go blind!lol Good luck with your build. Mac (Pam) Pam's shipyard is closed for now no more room!
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Any pics of completed canon yet? Any paints used in anger yet?
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I'm afraid Pam, you could be the only member of the female persuasion, as I have scanned the 13 pages of members, not for any ulterior motive you understand, and yours is the only obvious female handle. This hobby is not exactly famous for attracting ladies. Don't let this load of old tars go to your head, we are just helpful by nature.  I only hope the wives will not get jealous, some of them are giving us enough grief as it is.  I'm sure if my assumption is erronious we shall be advised. I noticed you treated my last post on this topic with the comtempt it deserved.  You could always start you own topic: Lady shipmates, and see what happens.
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Like the idea of waiting until the whole keel is available and then assembling it in one go. But do we have any idea how many issues that will be? If each section is fully populated with ribs before moving on, plus some extra bits and pieces in between, it could be several months before we have all 3 (?) keel pieces.
John
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Hi John and welcome. I cannot claim this idea as original.  If you notice the part numbers, the keel is 1,2&3. In my experience kit parts are numbered in order of assembly.  So no prizes for concluding the original kit was assembled keel first. I presume they are not being supplied in that order as 3 keel parts in issue 1 would not be very uninspiring particularly for the novice constructor.  It is not in DeAgostini's interest, as well as ours to induce boredom and cancelled subscriptions.  So patience is a price we, as conventional builders, have to pay for installment financing and some extra goodies to ensnare us.  The pros and cons of the order of assembly will at least keep us out of mischief while we wait for the parts and construct our jigs. The good news is that the second delivery, issues 3-6, should allow us to lay our keels and fit most of the ribs in the conventional order.  Overall little time will be lost.
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Hi there I'm building jig myself. I've used two pieces of flooring (like laminate flooring but it is solid wood) as a base and I'm going to use L-shaped btrackets too keep hull square. I reckon that before I start anything it will take few months ( I want to have all hull parts ready) I'll keep you up to date.
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when i built the mayflower many years ago,i did it without a jig.  ..and that was only 30 inches long.....this time a jig is a must have....thanks for the pointers and pictures guys ...
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Hi all,
We have been following this topic and although we cannot supply a "bells and whistles" jig, we will shortly be supplying a working stand which will hold the keel in position whilst you continue the build.
Will update as soon as we know at what issue it will appear.
Admin.
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That's great news! Quentin Tarantino - Hallowed Be Thy Name!
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That's good news as well I hope it is sooner than later though. Got to start drinking wine to get the corks for painting the models as per the DVD Pam x
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Hi All Have been reading through this thread with interest. First thing have taken out a subscribtion to building the victory this morning. Am completly and utterly new to this have not even attempted anything like this before. Reading through the various threads I'm kinda thinking what an earth have I let my self in for lol  but hey there we go. Secoundly well why the Victoty well there's a bit of family history here as I am descended from midshipman John Pollard who served on Victory at the time of Trafalga, so to have a figure of him would be quite good(ties in with another thread somewhere) Have only the first issue so far so waiting for the next lot, not sure if I will actually start building yet as there seems to be a general concensus saying to wait for all the keel parts. Andy
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Hi, sorry if this sounds daft and stupid. Are the brackets screwed to the hull or just left loose?
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Hi eric the brackets are not screwed to the hull just the baseboard[building board]the keel just slots in between the brackets john HMS VICTORY HMS SURPRISE ASTON DB5 MCLAREN MP4-23
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Cheers John, just been out for some wood and some brackets. Looking forward to making a start. Eric
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how big should the wood base be for the jig
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