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Phil
#1 Posted : 08 March 2015 10:58:01

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Hello, I am not sure if I'm allowed to start topics, so feel free to delete it if necessary! Cool

Anyway this is an article I was referring to the other day. Those with fond memories of the 70s and 80s read on...

"Formula 1 bosses are pushing ahead with plans to change the rules to make cars more dramatic in the near future.
A series of proposals have been submitted by the rule-making Strategy Group for technical chiefs to consider and then report back on. These focus on making the cars and rear tyres wider, and making the engines more powerful.
F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone and Red Bull team principal Christian Horner are pushing for a return to the V8 naturally aspirated engines last used in 2013. All other teams are opposed to this, and want to stick with the new turbo hybrid engines, technology similar to that being pushed by road-car manufacturers.
F1 chiefs have set a target of 1,000bhp for the engines. The current engines already produce in the region of 840-880bhp, so the extra power could be achieved relatively easily and cheaply by increasing the revs used and adjusting the fuel-flow rate. This would also go some way to satisfying Ecclestone's desire for louder, more dramatic-sounding engines.
The date for the introduction of these rules has not yet been set. Some are pushing for 2016, but others feel that this could increase costs and risk damaging the 2015 season, since teams would freeze development to focus on their new designs. A more likely solution is that the changes will be introduced for 2017.
Cars will increase their width from 1,800mm to 2,000mm, the size they were in 1997. At the same time, front wings will be widened and rear wings made bigger. Rear tyres will be widened to increase mechanical grip, and the new tyre supplier for 2017 - when Pirelli's contract ends - will be decided by a tender process, with all interested manufacturers invited to apply and present ideas.
Teams have discussed increasing the size of the wheels from 13 inches to 18 or even 20 inches. But there has been no agreement on this so far"
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Tomick
#2 Posted : 08 March 2015 11:41:58

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Feel free to start as many topics as you like ThumpUp

Interesting post, makes you wonder where F1 is heading and if its for the better?
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#3 Posted : 08 March 2015 14:20:52

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Yes indeed, a very interesting post Phil.

As Tom says, anyone is free to post new topics and it is the lifeblood of any forum so well done you for starting a new one - it would be nice if more 'passive' members could be encouraged to do the same by your example?

Some great content in your post Phil and it sounds like a move in the right direction as far as making Formula One interesting again goes and I've absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the drivers themselves would totally love it if those proposals were to come to fruition? However, I fear that although very powerful normally aspirated engines may be great for the spectacle of Formula One, the simple fact is that the manufacturers are more interested in the current 'Hybrid' technologies which are being developed at their expense, as that is the way that road cars are headed now and into the foreseeable future, due to the need to be 'Green' or 'Eco-friendly' and since Formula One has usually been the test bed for future road car technology, and it is the manufacturers that call the shots in our sport, I can't really see it moving away from what they want to do - which is to develop road car technology, with a view to making lots of money for their businesses? Very boring but like everything else nowadays it's about high flying business interests and corporate image rather than bringing fun and excitement to both the drivers and the fans I'm afraid? Would love to see those proposals happen though, I have to say!! Drool ThumpUp

An interesting debate, thanks Phil. Cool ThumpUp


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#4 Posted : 08 March 2015 15:18:19

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Hi Guys, I've been into F1 for ages but I've got an unusually bad memory. I was wondering was there a time when F1 had more than one tyre manuracturer in a season? I'm think I remember a time when there was. It would be interesting if there was 2,3 or even 4 different companies making tyres & that might stir things up abit & make for some exciting races. There is probably some reason why this doesn't happen like sponsorship, cost or just to complicated to introduce. Stu
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Hello Stu,

Yes there have been several times in the history of Formula One when there has been more than one tyre manufacturer supplying the teams with their 'rubber boots'. Back in the '70s and '80s, if I remember correctly, there was Goodyear, Pirelli and Firestone all racing against each other and I'm sure there was Michelin in amongst them as well around the same time? There have been other 'Tyre Wars' since, some as recently as the '90s and into the early 2000s, when we had Goodyear and Michelin supplying at the same time, or was it Michelin and Pirelli?

Trouble was (and why the FIA decided to tender a single tyre supply contract to whichever manufacturer could produce the best tyre to the specifications required), was that if one tyre was significantly better than the other it created a one sided battle and made the races boring to watch which drove fans away eventually. Bernie wanted his show to be more appealing, as he was losing money when the fan count dropped and so he and the FIA (secretly known as Bernie Ecclestone Minions Inc.Flapper ) changed the game to make it less one sided and with one eye on bringing back his income as holder of the commercial rights in Formula One to a more agreeable and much improved level!! Good old Bernie Ecclestone - if it makes him more money then it's in, if it doesn't then it ain't happening!! Glare Glare


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#6 Posted : 08 March 2015 17:08:20

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Yes I agree Kev, I can't see the big manufacturers moving away from their hybrid engines! It is a shame.

And yes Stu, I remember, was it 98, Goodyear's last season? Schumacher got a puncture at Suzuka effectively ending his title fight and the headline in Autosport read "Goodyear out with a bang!" Laugh

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#7 Posted : 08 March 2015 18:13:28

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Thanks all for answering my tyre question. I was sure that there was more than one tyre manufacturer in a season at one point. Cheers guys.
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#8 Posted : 08 March 2015 22:11:04

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No problem Stu (and Phil) always happy to chat about Formula One or motor racing of any kind. I love it!! Love Cool ThumpUp


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