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Some very nice clean work there Adam, very well done.... .. You should find the planking of the upper section a lot easier to complete and less time consuming... .. Look forward to your next update.... Regards Alan
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Very neat work Adam . A bit of a heads up be careful of the top ribs as they are very brittle and will snap off hope this helps rgd Martyn Building ? Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa Next Build ? When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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Martyn Ingram wrote: Very neat work Adam . A bit of a heads up be careful of the top ribs as they are very brittle and will snap off hope this helps rgd Martyn Thanks for the heads-up Martyn. I have had a couple of near misses already, even with some strips of balsa taped to the taller ribs. Thankfully no damage to date. Regards, Adam
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Just a quick update. Gallery panels and dummy gun support beams have been fitted. With the aft section of gun support beams I encountered an air gap between the base of the beams and the deck. The worst instance was just under 4mm between frames 21 & 22. Used some offcuts to fill the gap and the end result now provides additional bracing to the joins. With the gallery panels fitted, I have stumbled upon what I think is a possible minor issue with the alignment of rib frame 26 that may affect the planking. I placed a ruler flush against the gallery and rib frame 26 at the bottom, middle and top of the gallery and compared the gap to the rib. For the middle to bottom area. I have a 2mm gap between the ruler and rib. This is the same width as the planks so it seems OK so far. However, when I place the ruler at the top of the gallery, the ruler is flush with the frame. When planked, this would result in the top half of the planks between rib 26 and the gallery top having an outward flare. I have provided a photo that depicts the issue on the port side. This situation is the same on the stbd side. I am not sure whether this is as it should be. I am in two minds whether to leave it as it is, or shave off 2mm from the outside edge on top half of both rib 26. Any words of wisdom from other builders about this is appreciated. Meanwhile, I am also doing a test run of deck planking. I hope to be able to post an update on this during the week. Thanks for looking in. Regards, Adam AdamHall attached the following image(s):
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Hi Adam, must say she is looking great, very neat and tidy work being shown... .. As for rib 26, this did give me a minor issue similar to what you see on yours. I wouldn't remove 2mm from the edge of the rib, I simply fared the edges of rib 22 & 26 until I achieved a smooth transition to the stern. Fared most from the edges closest to the gallery and it worked for me..... Hope this helps.. Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Hi Adam, must say she is looking great, very neat and tidy work being shown... .. As for rib 26, this did give me a minor issue similar to what you see on yours. I wouldn't remove 2mm from the edge of the rib, I simply fared the edges of rib 22 & 26 until I achieved a smooth transition to the stern. Fared most from the edges closest to the gallery and it worked for me..... Hope this helps.. Regards Alan G'day Alan, Thanks for the reply. Not fairing the ribs, but instead, fairing the planking for the upper section of rib 26 to the gallery may well be the safer option at this stage. The ribs 22 & 26 are standing tall like sore thumbs at the moment and definitely won't take any punishment from fairing at this point of the build (cue in from stage right Martyn's recent post above). I will re-assess the situation once the planking is half way up. At least then I can dry fit the final few rows of planks to see what the end result will look like by leaving the ribs as they are now. Cheers, Adam
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Brief update on progress, I spent a few days looking at various options for deck planking (mainly associated with plank lengths and spacing) and caulking techniques. Google was definitely my friend and resulted in information overload. There is a myriad of differing styles and techniques to select from with no one particular style prevalent. It is definitely a matter of own choice and the scale of the model. So, after narrowing the field down to a few options I used the home computer to draw and print to scale deck planking options to see was suits. Cutting and laying the paper to fit the size of the deck area allowed for a quick comparison of the options. (Much like using paint colour swatches). The planks that I have used to trial are leftovers from a previous Artesania Latina kit and are used as a guide only. For caulking, I decided to use a 6B pencil, which seems to give an even appearance when viewed from all angles. Printing the selected planking style provided a great cheat sheet for keeping track of orientation and also for placing a line through the completed rows. The net result is shown in the accompanying pictures. Still researching finishing / sealing techniques: again too many options. Although Danish Oil appears to be a leading contender. The local hardware has this for AUD35 for a litre can This price is just a little bit outside the affordability for the purpose of experimentation. Anyhow, onwards and upwards. Time to crack on with the upper hull planking. Thanks for looking in. Regards, Adam AdamHall attached the following image(s):
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Hi Adam, assess as you travel up the hull is the right way to go. I agree the ribs are quite brittle and to be clear, I didn't carry out the fairing in one go, I carried out the fairing as I planked up those ribs with a very fine file and they didn't snap. Took a lot of care in the process though.... .. Good luck with it and I look forward to seeing the results..... Regards Alan
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Hi folks, There is a definite air of excitement and much cause for celebration in Adam’s dockyard this week because the first layer of planking IS COMPLETE. WHOOT!! WHOOT!! It has been a slow process (some 7 months all told) but I am more than happy with the end result. I had concerns earlier about the shape of the upper hull at rib 26 and the gallery. In the end I did not take any thickness out of the rib. There is now a smooth flowing curvature of the planking to the galley which I was unable to visualise until mid way through planking the upper hull. Now it’s onto doing a tidy up the curved piece at the stern and reduce the planking overhang at the stern post section to 2mm. Then filling in the entire hull with putty, sand smooth and measuring out for the gun ports. The list goes on…......... The build continues with renewed vigour. Regards, Adam AdamHall attached the following image(s):
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Well done Adam, certainly an achievement to get that planking done. Looks very nice too Steve
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Credit where credit is due Adam, excellent work on the planking. She is looking fab and goes to show your efforts really have paid dividends here.... Very well done, look forward to seeing more of your progress... Regards Alan
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Congratulations on getting your first layer of planking done Adam, and wow, it looks like you've done a fantastic job of it too
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Well done M8 lovely work on the planking Rgd Martyn Building ? Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa Next Build ? When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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Hi Adam, Great first planking. Will be top notch when sanded and second planked. Keep up the good work. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi folks, Now that the first layer of planking is complete, I covered the entire hull with Agnews putty remove the lumps and bumps. Agnews comes in powder form and water is added in a 3:1 ratio to obtain the required consistency. A plaster spatula was used to apply the mix to the hull. Once dry, the hull was sanded with 80 grit then with 120 grit paper. This part of the evolution was extremely messy and definitely a job for outside. Once completed, the irregularities in the hull were covered and resulted in a very smooth surface. Marking the hull for the gun ports was fairly straight forward and I used a Mathomat for this. The beauty of the Mathomat is that it is transparent, flexible and scribed with parallel lines. This last feature was very beneficial when marking the vertical (12mm) lines on the gunports to be parallel with the lines marked for the rib frames. The horizontal (13mm) lines of the gunports are also square with respect to the rib frames. The lower level gun port between frames 16 and 20 is 20mm aft of frame 16 (in-lieu of 15mm). I have decided not to include the lower gun port that is between rib frames 26 and 30. After reviewing my photo journal taken during the build progress, I identified that I had previously filled in the area between these two frames with a balsa in-fill. Looking at other build logs and diaries it looks as though this gun port is the only one that is going to be closed. So, for me it is down to a choice of whatever will look more out of place: (1) no gun port, or, (2) the only one closed. Now it’s time to start cutting out the gun ports. I have a stash of craft knife blades at the ready, just hope that I have 10 fingers remaining at the end. Regards, Adam AdamHall attached the following image(s):
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Hi Adam, Looking really good so far. Just remember to measure a second time before you start cutting out the gun ports if you`ve not already done so. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Very nice looking build Adam
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Very well done Adam, it's obvious you have taken great care over the first layer of planking and you've done a beautiful job of it too.... .. Keep the pics coming, look forward to seeing your progress with the gun ports.... Regards Alan
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Nice work Adam, lovely smooth base you have there Steve
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Hi folks, Well, this week marked the first anniversary of the build. The build is massively behind compared with the weekly editions. I am still beavering away at Issue #35 (picked up Issue #59 from the newsagent last week). That said, making steady progress. In my opinion it is more to do with the process and enjoyment of the build rather than the pace (I only have enough time to devote about 4 hours a week). Anyhow, I have completed cutting out the port side gun ports and still have all 10 fingers. I will be trimming down the excess planking from the top hull section once the gun ports are completed on both sides of the hull. The top row mid-section of gun ports are fairly close to the areas that need to be trimmed. I thought it would be better to have additional strength around these gun ports for the time being. I attempted to use a Dremel but found that it was too easy to make a slip-up and take out too much material where not wanted (especially when going with the bamboo grain). Instead, I have used pin vice drill and an OLFA Art Knife for cutting out the gun ports. The OLFA blade is super sharp and long lasting (only used the one blade so far). It’s a matter of finding what works with the tools and other bits that you have available. I have included a snapshot of the sequence that I have used (hopefully the pictures are self-explanatory). So, now is onto the starboard side. Thanks for looking in and happy building to you all. Regards, Adam AdamHall attached the following image(s):
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