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#1 Posted : 07 April 2015 20:11:48

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Hi all well since I've nearly finished the Spits and the Lanc I thought it was time to start back on the Corvette and this little beauty that I've just taken delivery of, I must say I thought the 1/6 bikes box were huge but even they pale into insignificance when compared to this beast.




That said the box could be half this size









The moulding detail is beautiful











The instructions however could do with some work, one written page in english everything else is in French.









and why put these on the top where they could get creased like this, if theyed been on the bottom this would not have happened


Hopefully I can iron them out.

I have taken a very stupid chance and bought a very (well I think its very expensive) guilding kit just for this. I gulp, am going to try useing real gold leaf wherever the ship has gold. I have never guilded anything in my life so we will see, have I wasted my money, am I going to ruin this kit, stay tunefor the next exciting episode.
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#2 Posted : 07 April 2015 21:34:00

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#3 Posted : 07 April 2015 23:53:01

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Hi ken good luck with the guiding look forward to seeing your progress Ian.Cool BigGrin
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#4 Posted : 08 April 2015 09:05:34

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Hi all as I said I've never guilded before should I paint the blue first then guild over that or should I guild the part first then paint the blue over it, and if painting is first should I use gloss paint guild over that then matt coat the blue.
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#5 Posted : 08 April 2015 10:26:26

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Looks like a great kit Ken, looking forward to seeing this come together.
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#6 Posted : 08 April 2015 14:34:29

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Hi Ken.

Lovely looking ship there!Cool
If by guilding you mean actual gold leaf then you'd have to guild the entire part first by painting it with a coat of 'size' which dries to a sticky finish, the gold leaf is then placed over the sticky part and gently pushed down into the crevices with a very soft brush (sable usually). Then you'd have to paint the blue background in between the figures.
If you mean a gold coloured paint then I'd paint the whole thing in a good matt blue (after a suitable primer) and then paint in the gold figures on top.
I've never used the gold leaf myself apart from a very small amount at Art College all those years ago!Blushing

Hope that helps!

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#7 Posted : 08 April 2015 16:54:04

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Yep real gold leaf so even if I ruin it it will still be worth 50 quid melted down(assuming I use all the gold leaf) (which being a novice is more than probable) thanks for the info (there is a soft brush with the kit so I recon that's what it's for)
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#8 Posted : 08 April 2015 22:45:21
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Hi Ken, BigGrin

Have looked at this kit several times on ebay.

A brave move with the gold leaf and that`s from someone who`s tried it and got some reasonable results with no training. (Self taught)

I bought my gold leaf kits off ebay at a very reasonable price, to use on my Sots build.

Some advise from my attempts is as follows:

A: Make sure the parts are clean and grease free.

B: If you have a spray gun, a light grey primer (thin coat). A plastic primer from a car parts shop in a spray can will do.

C: A deep maroon oil paint (as thin a coat as possible). This forms a backing colour to give the gold depth and if you have minor cracks in the gold, they don`t show up as much.

D: Now apply the "Size".

E: I found it easier to use smaller pieces of leaf. Even if the gold overlaps when tapped down with the brush, when fully dried if you very gently use your soft brush and brush over the gold, any overlap brushes off and can be used for gap filling if needed.

Hope this helps and good luck with the build.

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#9 Posted : 08 April 2015 23:11:37

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Interesting looking kit there Ken, can you read French Confused
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#10 Posted : 09 April 2015 08:03:06

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Thanks for the Guilding info, very useful, nope can't read french but like to look at the pretty pictures.
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Well here is my first attempt at guilding.









not sure wether to do a wash to highlight the detail or not, dont know if it will kill the shine on the gold, and if I did what colour should i use.
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#12 Posted : 09 April 2015 21:43:13
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Hi Ken, BigGrin

That looks like a great start on the guilding.

Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

Well done, looking forward to more of the same. Drool

Don`t personally think you need a wash as the gold forms it`s own shadow spots and would be a real shame to lose all that "BLING".

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#13 Posted : 10 April 2015 00:22:34

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Guilding looks spot on and well done for deciding to go down this route.... Cool Cool

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well I've got to the first problem with guilding, getting a crisp line, mind you I still yhink it looks good




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stevie_o wrote:
Gilding looks fantastic KenBigGrin Perhaps the straight edges could be masked first before applying the gold? Just a suggestion as I've never done it before.

Steve


You`re right to an extent Steve.

Two possibilities:

1, The gold will only stick where the size is applied, or spreads, so finer painting of the size or using less of it may help.

or

2, As Steve suggests mask the line to make sure the size goes only where you want, remove the mask and then apply the gold.

If you apply the gold with the mask in place, you may end up with masking tape, size and gold all stuck together and a right old mess.

Hope this helps.

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#17 Posted : 11 April 2015 10:09:02

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Thanks Derek, Steve, great tips which I shall use on the straight bits but round the filigree bits the engraving is so fine it would be impossible, have to give that some thought and see what I can come up with.
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Well here is todays efforts, got to say this will be a long long build, but unless I ruin it, it will be a beautiful ship.


















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Hi Ken, BigGrin

Looking good, Cool

Just how long is that thing, it looks huge. Blink

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#20 Posted : 11 April 2015 21:29:34

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It is 33 inches I just hope I do it justice, even my missus says it's pretty, and I've barely started.
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