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 Nice start on the planking David keep the pics coming  Rgd Martyn Building ?
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BUILD UPDATE #30
Hi folks,having some spare time, I thought I would have a look part #80, the large plastic moulding that fits onto the stern underside of the hull.
Having looked at the option to use acetone to soften up the material and make it easier to open up the ballasting vents, I gave up on the idea because I was concerned that applying too much would irreversibly damage the plastic. So, after a disastrous start at using the method tried earlier at the front end, I managed to damage the slots I was working on and therefore, I had to come up with a better plan of action to get those tiny vents drilled out.
The solution I came up with was my 'Dremel' type hand craft tool and a wire wheel.
Working from the inside of the part, with the drill on a slow speed, I carefully ran the wire wheel over the slots whilst holding it up to a light so as to reduce the thickness of the layer of plastic which covered the slots.
As soon as the first signs of daylight showed through the slots I knew I had gone far enough. Then turning the part over, it was a simple matter of poking through with a craft knife to open up the slots and smoothing with a needle file.
As you can see in the photo, although some more tidying up is required, the result is satisfactory, and this method took me around an hour to complete. I would hazard a guess that I've saved myself several evenings worth of work with a drill and file to accomplish the job, so now there's just the other side to do now and some tidying up.
Thanks for looking in and for the comments.
Happy building
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Nicely done on those vents David, fiddly but worth the effort.....  Regards Alan
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Good idea David, hadn't thought of attacking them from the rear. Finally got my missing issue 30 yesterday and as you say there is very little plastic covering the inside of the vents so i think i will try your method because as you say some of the vents are really small.
Graeme
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David Nice wrk on the vents. Little touches like this will make all the difference to the finished model. Happy Modelling
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Thanks Alan, Tony and Graeme. I'm aiming for getting the other side cut out today sometime and repair my mistake. Thanks for looking and leaving comments
Happy building
David
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BUILD UPDATE #30 - A
Just a quick update. As you can see from the picture, I've now got the vents on both sides cut out, but I've made a right royal mess of the repair job.
I've tidied up the area but still thinking about what to do to rectify it.
Any ideas welcome
Thanks for looking and happy building
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Hi David, Although I`ve never used it before, the one thing that a lot of people use for scratch building is "Plasticard" Will mean inserting a piece and then re-cutting the vents. Here`s a link to just one seller on ebay: PLASTICARDThere may be people with better ideas but this seems like a possible cure to your problem. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Plasticard and filler can cure all kinds of mistakes and looks the best option here Could the plastic have been sanded "thinner" from the inside, this may have taken away most of the internal part of the vents leaving the thicker plastic intact? Not sure it would work on this as I cant see the part but I have used it before for similar. Steve
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Thank you Derek & Steve. Plasticard it is then. I've taken some measurements and ordered some of the right thickness and it will be with me by the weekend.
That will give me some time to finish tidying up the vents. Thank you so much guys
What happened was that I thought I'd start by drilling out the smallest slots in much the same way as I had done with vents at the bow,but to open them up, I had to remove some of the inner ribs that were covering them. But I was a bit too heavy handed with the grinding wheel and it went right through the rib and into the slots. As you can imagine, the air air was blue with expletives for a few minutes until I managed to calm down and realise it wasn't the end of the world after all.
Thanks again guys
Happy building
David
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Hello David,
Steve's method would have been the best, as in sand away the plastic from the inside until the 'blanked off' part of the vent was removed or at least very thin where it could then just be pushed out? Then just (carefully) run a small amount of Tamiya 'Extra Thin' cement around the edge of each vent with a small brush (I'm assuming the plastic is of the polystyrene type?), which will gently melt away the rough edges to leave a smooth edge - but DO NOT touch it when soft, just leave it all to dry naturally?
All irrelevant of course, now that you've drilled the vents out, but you could try just sanding the edges of each vent to a more perfect shape then use the Tamiya Extra Thin Cement as detailed above? It should turn out reasonably well and you'll be rid of all those rough edges to the vents? Worth a try on an inconspicuous vent first if you're not confident, or maybe just drill a few holes in some scrap plastic card and practice on that until you've got it right but it is a well known method that I've often used myself in the past with good results.
Hope that helps?
Kev
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Thanks Kev, that's a very useful bit of info and something I shall definitely look into. It sounds like just what I've been looking for to smooth off the rough edges of the vents and finishing them off nicely. I'll post an update when the repair is complete and the vents smoothed off
Happy building
David
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Hi David. Hope your repair goes ok. look forward to seeimg more of your build. Ian Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
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Thanks Ian, shouldn't be too much of a problem once I've got the materials at the end of the week.
My next 4 issues arrived today, so at least there is more to get on with.
Happy building
David
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BUILD UPDATE #32
Hi again everyone.
Just thought to let you know that my 'Plasicard' and my Tamiya Extra Thin Cement arrived during the week so I can get on with repairing the underside of the moulding from issue #30. I will keep you updated on that, but in the meantime, I've got to work on this month's consignment of parts starting with issue #32 - more wooden strips 1x3x248mm to complete the planking on the central section of the top of the hull (left-hand side).
It was all quite straightforward, starting at the bow end laying first 3 strips followed by a further 3 strips working away from the centre line of the hull.
Then moved on to the mid section and then the rear section, laying the strips in the same manner.
Then came the more tricky bit of filling the gap between the last strip and the longitudinal strengthener, following the same procedure as with the right hand side, using spare strips and tapering them to match the gap and beveling the outer edge to sit properly against the longitudinal strengthener.
That's all for this week. Thanks for looking in and thanks for the comments and help.
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BUILD UPDATE #30B
Hi again.
As I said yesterday, here's the update on the repair I had to make to the moulding in issue #30.
First off though, I'd like to give a big thank you to Steve (aka Stevie-o) for recommending the Plasticard,
And to Kev (aka ModelMania) for telling me about the Tamiya Extra thin Cement and how to use it to smooth off around the vent slots.
Not too much to say really as I've included work flow pictures of the progress so far. Indeed, all that's needed now is a bit more tidying up (I've got to buy some more Micro Mesh for the last bit of smoothing off) then it will be all ready for the primer coat when I get to that stage.
That's it for now. Again, thank you Steve and Kev for your help, and thank you for looking in.
Happy building
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Hi David, Nice repair job with the "Plasticard" and the vents look much better now the edges have been smoothed. Keep up the good work. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Nice job on the vents David, looks great Steve
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Nice recovery David....keep the pics coming
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Excellent recovery work David and glad you got the hang of the Tamiya 'Extra Thin' trick - well done!!
Onwards and upwards mate. Watching your build with interest.
Kev
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