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d3bug
#1 Posted : 10 May 2015 13:00:57

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Good morning folks. My wife convinced me to take the plunge, so I dove headfirst into the HMS Victory. I have not received my first shipment yet, but everything I saw / read / watched led me to believe that we would both be happy with this model. I just wanted to come in here and say hi there. I have no real modelling experience, so this will be a true test of mettle for me. I don't have much to do during the day, so at least I know I will be busy now. BigGrin
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#2 Posted : 10 May 2015 13:08:18
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Hi, BigGrin

Welcome to model space and like your choice of model. Cool

Loads of information and help/advice available on the forum and it`s all free.

Good luck with your build when you start.

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#3 Posted : 10 May 2015 13:09:01

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Welcome d3bug

I haven't built the victory myself but my step father has, I've also watched several on here come together. It certainly builds into a fantastic looking model.

Good Luck with your build, hope you consider posting a build diary BigGrin Cool
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#4 Posted : 10 May 2015 13:14:24

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#5 Posted : 10 May 2015 13:58:53

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BigGrin Welcome to the forum d3bug, the Victory is a great kit for first time builders and the more experiencedCool
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#6 Posted : 10 May 2015 14:28:09

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A warm welcome to the forum. You have selected a great kit and it is one beginners like yourself can master. You have joined a very helpful forum and one of the best ways to avoid any mishaps is to publish a build diary along the way, this way the more experienced modellers can watch your progress and assist you along the way...Cool Cool .. Am sure you'll enjoy your build and should you have any queries then just ask, am here to assist if needed.... Cool Cool

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#7 Posted : 10 May 2015 17:13:41

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d3bug wrote:
Good morning folks. My wife convinced me to take the plunge, so I dove headfirst into the HMS Victory. I have not received my first shipment yet, but everything I saw / read / watched led me to believe that we would both be happy with this model. I just wanted to come in here and say hi there. I have no real modelling experience, so this will be a true test of mettle for me. I don't have much to do during the day, so at least I know I will be busy now. BigGrin


Welcome to the forum d3bug.I am forum support for USa so let me know if there is anything I can do to help.This is a very friendly forum with tons of really talented and helpful members that are happy to help you with this magnificent ship model.Please consider posting a build diary here so we can all see your work.

Carl


d3bug
#8 Posted : 11 May 2015 02:18:16

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Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. I did have a couple of questions for anyone. I am really seriously thinking about doing the top deck with treenails (yes I know it is ALOT of work) and if I could figure out a way to do it to scale, I was actually considering pitching the deck as well as the hull, but I don't think there is scale way to do that. Another thing I am considering is when doing the copper plates, I really would want to do pins instead of just glue, but I don't know if anyone makes pins to scale for that kind of project. I know the options I want to do seem like alot of work particularly for a newbie like me, but I have nothing but time to kill, so I want to be as close to accurate as possible. If anyone can offer advice on those things, I am all ears so to speak.

Thanks.
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Welcome to ModelSpace, hope you enjoy your stay with us and your build Cool
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#10 Posted : 11 May 2015 09:23:39

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Hi there d3bug and welcome to model space. I hope you enjoy your build, you made a good choice! One thing is for sure, should you need help in any way, I guarantee that you will get it here from our members...Look forward to seeing your build progress.
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#11 Posted : 12 May 2015 22:02:34

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Welcome to Model space buddy. You've chosen a great ship to build. There's plenty of info and builds on here if you get stuck. Happy building mate
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#12 Posted : 12 May 2015 23:55:30

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BigGrin Hi d3bug

Trenailing and pitching can be done in several ways and every modeler has there own way of doing it, pitching for example you could use black fishing line or thin black card stuck to the planks edge another way is to use a soft pencil along the edges to colour it. Another way I recently tried was to use a wash after completing the planking and trenailing. As for trenails again There are many methods some just mark them on with a pencil and varnish over the pencil marks others will use cocktail sticks you can also buy trenails from model shops but these can work out expensive , To do the cocktail method just plank the deck and allow to dry then mark the trenails where you want them and use a 0.5 mm drill and drill the marked holes, then glue in the cocktail sticks allow to dry trim and sand to deck level. I have added some links below to various builds that have used cocktail sticks scroll down the page to view them.

http://forum.model-space...sts&t=15295&p=2

http://forum.model-space...sts&t=5013&p=60

http://forum.model-space...osts&t=7623&p=2

Nails/pins for the copper plates can be bought from model shops but you will need to sample some to get an idea of size.

Hope this helps

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#13 Posted : 12 May 2015 23:59:02

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d3bug wrote:
Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. I did have a couple of questions for anyone. I am really seriously thinking about doing the top deck with treenails (yes I know it is ALOT of work) and if I could figure out a way to do it to scale, I was actually considering pitching the deck as well as the hull, but I don't think there is scale way to do that. Another thing I am considering is when doing the copper plates, I really would want to do pins instead of just glue, but I don't know if anyone makes pins to scale for that kind of project. I know the options I want to do seem like alot of work particularly for a newbie like me, but I have nothing but time to kill, so I want to be as close to accurate as possible. If anyone can offer advice on those things, I am all ears so to speak.

Thanks.


Hi 3d, what you have to consider is the scale of the ship. If you went to scale for things such as treenailing the deck and using pins for the copper plates, at this scale they would barely be seen. You can however make excellent representation of these areas through the use of items such as wooden cocktail sticks for treenailing, this is the method I used for the hull of my SOTS. Simulating treenails on the deck can be done with items such as planking pins, cocktail sticks and black fishing line, the black fishing line was the choice I made. A number of members have used all of these items. Caulking or pitching the decking can be done again using fishing line, black card, black permanent marker, pencil to name a few. Best thing I would recommend is to look through a number of the ship build diaries on this forum and there you will see the different methods various builders have employed, you could then do some test pieces for yourself to see what would give you the effect you are after... Use the search function on the forum to find specific items you are looking for by entering key words... Hope this gives you some idea for you to research..... Good luck with it...Cool Angry

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#14 Posted : 13 May 2015 01:18:04

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BigGrin Hi d3bug

Trenailing and pitching can be done in several ways and every modeler has there own way of doing it, pitching for example you could use black fishing line or thin black card stuck to the planks edge another way is to use a soft pencil along the edges to colour it. Another way I recently tried was to use a wash after completing the planking and trenailing. As for trenails again There are many methods some just mark them on with a pencil and varnish over the pencil marks others will use cocktail sticks you can also buy trenails from model shops but these can work out expensive , To do the cocktail method just plank the deck and allow to dry then mark the trenails where you want them and use a 0.5 mm drill and drill the marked holes, then glue in the cocktail sticks allow to dry trim and sand to deck level. I have added some links below to various builds that have used cocktail sticks scroll down the page to view them.

http://forum.model-space...sts&t=15295&p=2

http://forum.model-space...sts&t=5013&p=60

http://forum.model-space...osts&t=7623&p=2

Nails/pins for the copper plates can be bought from model shops but you will need to sample some to get an idea of size.

Hope this helps

Regards

AndyCool





Thank you very much for the links! That first one - the deck looks like the real ship after the wash. That is INCREDIBLE.
Garth
#15 Posted : 28 May 2015 07:15:48

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Hi d3bug,

A warm welcome to the forum. I think that you have chosen a great model. Looking forward to seeing your build log.

Kind regards,

Garth
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