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Hi magpie, In a recent thread on ways to attach the hull planking without pins you mentioned the use of something called Alphatic glue. Can you tell me what it is and where it can be purchased. I've tried a couple of aformentioned sites such as ModelExpo and Cornwall and I can't seem to find any. Any help would be appreciated as I am going for a natural finish for my build so I need to have as few imperfections in the planking as possible. Have already taken Zeptrader's bulldog clip suggestion on board for clamping, so all that is left is to find the right glue for the job. Thanks in advance and happy building Daffy09
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I use the glue and the bulldog clips to hold mine also use bar clamps.
Here is the Link to them... Its the 3rd bottle down. Cheers Chris.. http://www.cornwallmodel...catalog/wood_glues.html
http://www.irwin.co.uk/xp/index.html
On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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Excellent!! Thanks for replying so quickly, I'll use those links. many thanks Daffy09
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er daffy.try aliphatic rapid glue.it's all in the speeling Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Thanks Karl I realised my mistake when I visited the webpage that Magpie guided me to. It's wonderful what I can find when I know how to spell correctly. Thanks for once again showing me how useful this forum can be. I don't really know where I would be if it wasn't for the wealth of info that I'm getting from these pages. Thanks again daffy09
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Just a question to all the guys doing plain wood finish or natural wood finish, whatever you want to call it, the original structure was held together with wood pegs and nails to adhere it to the frame, would a more authentic look not be to have the pins showing in the wood, I mean the Victory was not held together by prayer and good luck? Just a thought guys Current build : The Victory Pending builds : none - yet Built loads of bikes trucks planes and boats - all plastic kits. on wish list - a 1:24 spitfire, in wood, plastic, just as long as I can build it :)
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Hi, It would look authentic but in the scale of the ship you probably wouldn't see the nails. If you wanted to you could use trenails made of wood. Our brass pins are 1mm thick scaled up would make them 84mm thick. Thats one hell of a nail...lol. you would need to use .5mm or lower pins to get it looking right. On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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Ok  Point taken I haven't started planking yet so dont really know the planking pin sizes yet. Current build : The Victory Pending builds : none - yet Built loads of bikes trucks planes and boats - all plastic kits. on wish list - a 1:24 spitfire, in wood, plastic, just as long as I can build it :)
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daffy09 wrote:Hi magpie, In a recent thread on ways to attach the hull planking without pins you mentioned the use of something called Alphatic glue. Can you tell me what it is and where it can be purchased. I've tried a couple of aformentioned sites such as ModelExpo and Cornwall and I can't seem to find any. Any help would be appreciated as I am going for a natural finish for my build so I need to have as few imperfections in the planking as possible. Have already taken Zeptrader's bulldog clip suggestion on board for clamping, so all that is left is to find the right glue for the job. Thanks in advance and happy building Daffy09 Try Evostik Wood Glue. I've been using it for years, it's resin based and a hell of a lot cheaper than aliphatic glue. It's also more readily available. Dave H
Current builds :- Hachette 1/16 Tiger Tank H.M.S Victory, Santisima Trinidad (Section), 1/8 scale Aston Martin DB5, 1/8 scale McLaren, YNWA
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Hi,
The only reason I use aliphatic is that it doesn't stain exotic wood so you can varnish it, also can take wood stain unlike most normal wood glue. If you clamp the wood with aliphatic glue it is dry in an hour so you can do another plank. quickest mine has dried is 15 minutes... On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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Hi Magpie, That's something else I didn't know about. A little tip like that can save lots swearing and tears further into the build process. Thanks Daffy09
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