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jase
#1 Posted : 05 September 2010 16:53:59

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I have reached the point in my build where i need to tackle the issue of rib 15 this is my solution i think quick and easy...

1. with the hull upside down put a piece of card squarely behind the rib and draw around it


2. cut out card to form a template mark Deck and keel; sides


3. Using some scrap ply (in my case i had some extra ribs and used them but any scrap will do)draw the line of the lower hull using the template.


4. Next I measured the depth of the over-sized rib from outside edge to deck edge in my Case 2.3mm. I then measured 2.3mm in on the keel side of the card template and cut a strip of the template shortening it by the oversize depth. placing the card template back squarely next to the rib against the keel I drew around the template on both sides of the rib to mark the depth of timber that needs removing.


5. i cut out the scrap timber to shape using a razor saw and file. then measuring 35mm depth on the keel edge drew a line to create a triangular piece and cut out. You need to make 4 of these 2 for each side. also you will need to make a cut out for the joint support strip of 4mm on two of them.


6. finlay apply some wood glue to each of the cutouts and position them correctly either side of the rib against the keel and clamp down until dry


when it is time to plank the hull you can sand down the rib using a combination of the guide line and the planks to get the correct shape and size. i will also fill the recess between my two new ply pieces to give a smooth rib to plank against.

Interesting the upper part of my rib 15 is in-line with my second gun deck so at this stage i am not correcting the shape until planking. if the height needs correcting that can be done when the last deck goes on.

a bit of work but a simple and effective solution to ribs that are short of the keel.
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#2 Posted : 05 September 2010 17:35:15

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Thats a superb solution to the problem, well done.
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#3 Posted : 06 September 2010 10:20:59

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That's a good idea if it was just the bottom effected, unfortunately for me, the bottom of my rib 15 is good, it's the tops that sit out from the rest of the ribs by 2mm, I could sand this but this will create a weakness, and seeing as we dont know whats going there yet, Im gonna have to wait and see. Crying
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#4 Posted : 06 September 2010 12:41:20

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I must say I feel sorry for all those that haven't discovered this forum although I am not sure I can implement these fixes.

These part seem critical to me and could ruin the look of the whole ship. Bearing in mind these are so called 'laser cut parts', some disappointment is starting to creep in.

I haven't glued the ribs in yet although I know some have, would it be possible to correct these parts and resend them? BTW rib 16 seems short on the keel also on mine.

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#5 Posted : 07 September 2010 00:11:19

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my 16 is short also but not as badly

the laser cutting is procession unfortunately the cutting will only be as good as the programming of the cnc cutter or the drawing the program was made from. admin i understand are looking into the issue so it may be worth holding on to see what they do. my solution is for those of us who have already gone to far for a replacement part.

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You are so right. However, somebody must be responsible. The cutter, the programmer or maybe management. (Heaven Forbid) As per normal no response from admin or DeAgostini. Must be in the too difficult file.

One has to ask, why is poor performance or poor product acceptable. The only answer is that they are training all of us to scratch build!! At the end of which they are going to surprise us with a £500 refund. Haha

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jase wrote:
my 16 is short also but not as badly

the laser cutting is procession unfortunately the cutting will only be as good as the programming of the cnc cutter or the drawing the program was made from. admin i understand are looking into the issue so it may be worth holding on to see what they do. my solution is for those of us who have already gone to far for a replacement part.


Of course and I suspect many of us will be coming back here to try and implement it. The point was about over-hyped marketing backfiring if the programming or the plans used were wrong in the first place. One could legitimately ask "What's the point?"

I am new to this and want to learn the skills of building without learning the art of complicated repairs at this stage. I did all that with the launch.

John
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hi john and welcome.

i have been making models for 31 years and i have never made one yet that did not need some form of correcting even in the precision plastic world. i am currently making a plastic kit of the hood state of the art tooling fantastic model but i have spent three weeks corecting the decks on the command tower because they are upside down and do not fit.

Truth is if you bought this kit you would not get the detailed instructions or the official build help or all the forum support ideas and help and it would be very much more difficult which is no doubt why so many wooden ship kits end up on eBay!

If you need any help you are welcome to pm me any time

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The other option is to add thin strips of wood, bit like planking the frame, 1mm at a time and build up the frame that is too low, the option shown here also works. BigGrin

I wonder if we had this kit in full form, all the parts in front of us the mistakes or just running ahead far to quick we would end up with more/serious problems, look at it this way, as it weekly or monthly (wash my mouth out)..lol we can at least take our time and bash out these problems.

Jase has it right, nothing is perfect and as wood is easy to sand and shape things can be rectified with patience.



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