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nice to see you back Jack, top notch work as always. Paul Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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Hi Paul, thanks for your visit and comment, Jack.
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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 Since the death, on June 23th, of my mother-in-law, my wife and myself discovered that staying in Cinisello Balsamo we feel a bit alone. So, just to get some vacation, because it's more or less three years that in summertime we stay at home, we decided to move as soon as possible at our daughter's house in Calci, near Pisa, for some time. If all goes as we hope, in a couple of weeks we'll leave and it is very likely that we'll come back by end September. So I am faced with two choices: a- close the shipyard for some time or b- prepare the skeletons of the three ship boats before leaving and then, carrying with me the bare minimum, finish them while I'm away. Of course I selected the second possibility and in these days I am working to prepare the second boat scheleton and hopefully also the third, in order to continue elsewhere. Among other things I am not sure if I will get the internet connection because my "catastrophic" daughter has changed her provider with the result that her ADSL line is down without a planned availability date . . hoping in the near future. Finally: I got an answer from the photoetching guy who promised to send me a quotation for the next few days. Hoping in a positive and viable answer. See you soon, rgds. Jack.
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jack.aubrey wrote:Wednesday, July 15, 2015 Since the death, on June 23th, of my mother-in-law, my wife and myself discovered that staying in Cinisello Balsamo we feel a bit alone. So, just to get some vacation, because it's more or less three years that in summertime we stay at home, we decided to move as soon as possible at our daughter's house in Calci, near Pisa, for some time. If all goes as we hope, in a couple of weeks we'll leave and it is very likely that we'll come back by end September. So I am faced with two choices: a- close the shipyard for some time or b- prepare the skeletons of the three ship boats before leaving and then, carrying with me the bare minimum, finish them while I'm away. Of course I selected the second possibility and in these days I am working to prepare the second boat scheleton and hopefully also the third, in order to continue elsewhere. Among other things I am not sure if I will get the internet connection because my "catastrophic" daughter has changed her provider with the result that her ADSL line is down without a planned availability date . . hoping in the near future. Finally: I got an answer from the photoetching guy who promised to send me a quotation for the next few days. Hoping in a positive and viable answer. See you soon, rgds. Jack. So sorry to hear of your loss Jack, my condolences to you, your wife and the rest of your family Regards Paul Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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Sorry to hear this. Take care hope you get everything sorted soon “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Sorry to hear this. Take care hope you get everything sorted soon “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Gibbo wrote:So sorry to hear of your loss Jack, my condolences to you, your wife and the rest of your family Regards Paul
jase wrote:Sorry to hear this. Take care hope you get everything sorted soon Many thanks to all of you for your support . . She was 94 years old and we all were aware that this will may happen sooner or later . . We are happy she didn't suffer too much. She miss us. Thanks again, Jack.
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Sorry to hear the sad news of your loss Jack . All the best to you and your family Rgd Martyn Building ? Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa Next Build ? When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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Martyn Ingram wrote:Sorry to hear the sad news of your loss Jack . All the best to you and your family Rgd Martyn Thanks Martyn, from me and my wife . . Jack.
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Saturday, July 18th, 2015The second shipboat is well under way . . now there is only to apply and shape two bow wood blocks and then I'll switch to the third one to have all the material ready for my stay in Tuscany. 01 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20150718_193928_zpsgqzfcncz.jpg In the next images a comparative view between the two boats. The smaller one will be hosted inside the larger on the ship deck, between the two masts. 02 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20150718_193756_zpsjps3rtmr.jpg 03 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/20150718_193718_zpsej6vu3ze.jpg Cheers, Jack.Aubrey
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2015A few days ago I wrote with some enthusiasm, about the photo-etched copper plates, as below: Quote: Finally: I got an answer from the photoetching guy who promised to send me a quotation for the next few days. Hoping in a positive and viable answer.
Today, as promised, I received the answer, answer I reproduce in full here below: Quote: Hello Sergio,
Referring to your request to inform you that: 1- we could produce brass 0.2 mm or 0.10 mm nickel silver (no copper from 0.1 or 0.2 mm) 2- the total cost would be € 120.00 for setup costs and € 40.00/plate. So, assuming that you'll order 10 sheets the cost would be 10 x € 40.00 = € 400.00 + € 120.00 = € 520.00 + any shipment costs + VAT
I await confirmation of both the material (show me what you prefer) is the total cost in order to proceed with production. Sincerely.
I am genuinely stunned . . I asked for a quotation of 10 sheets, A4 size, although in reality I would need only 5. This because if the option was interesting, I was able to propose the material also for a friend who is doing the same model. On the website they advertise it was a really easy matter, I had only to prepare and send them an AutoCAD file, done following certain rules, and their highly sophisticated and flexible equipments would be ready to do all the work !! It sounds me like a steal . . the AMATI photoetched plates available on the market, unfortunately too small for my needs, cost about 15€ per sheet !! I think at this point I will have to reconsider other options, not last to leave the hull in natural wood . . and of course try other suppliers. It's a pity for the time lost but with shipmodeling we always need lot of patience ! Anyway I'll resume the matter after I'll get back from Tuscany. By the way I'm facing some other problems and I'll will delay my departure for a couple of weeks. Regards, Jack.
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Wow Jack that's a lot of money, i hope you find a more reasonably priced solution and your other problems get sorted. Paul Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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Hi Jack, at that price I would say they are definitely looking to rip you off. I know we all want our ship builds to look fab when finished but no way would I look to throw money away to rip off merchants..... Hope you find a more reasonable supplier at a decent price real soon..... .. Great work, really enjoy following your methods..... Regards Alan
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Hi Paul and Alan, you are right . . I had the same feeling of being ripped off. I still have another couple of options with photo-etchers hoping to get better quotations. If positive well, other I'll resume the famous Plan B !! Honestly I have also a Plan C but my preferred is always the current one. Anyway the copper sheating task can be delayed for a while so I can wait for better luck. Sincerely, Jack.
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Saturday, July 25th, 2015During these last days, I finished to cut out the elements of the third boat, the smallest one and whose plans are presented as pictures here below. The task of preparing all these pieces, keel and bulkheads, has been quite challenging as they are really very small pieces, cut from a plywood quite thin and I had to take care of them with a lot of patience and attention to avoid breakage, while still maintaining the necessary precision of the cut. So today I finally was able to assemble all the pieces using the same proven method of the two other boats. Apart few finishing details now the basic material to further proceed on their construction, when I'll go to Tuscany, should be quite ready. As I wrote my departure is delayed some time because of unexpected problems. No peace for us poor pensioners . . for now let me publish the plans of the last boat, images will follow. Friendliness, Jack.Aubrey. 01 Brick%20de%2024%20Plans/ScialuppaPiccolaLato_zpsegjmjqmh.jpg 02 Brick%20de%2024%20Plans/ScialuppaPiccolaChiglia_zps1vd4mgov.jpg 03 Brick%20de%2024%20Plans/ScialuppaPiccolaPoppa_zpsqtfmuhbm.jpg 04 Brick%20de%2024%20Plans/ScialuppaPiccolaPrua_zps61xmhlf4.jpg
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Tuesday, July 28th, 2015Here are pictures of the three boats all together, to highlight the differences in size. Now I should start the planking, as also the shaped bow woodblocks are in place. As I anticipated, double-layer planking in Tanganyika veneer, 0.5 mm. Regards, Jack. 01 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100341_zpsj5nziuqt.jpg 02 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100342_zpshl2gg24p.jpg 03 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100343_zpsiirtbdrz.jpg 04 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100344_zps2lswqmj5.jpg 05 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100345_zpsti6xppza.jpg 06 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100346_zpsn73z0vcy.jpg
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Very impressive work. I'm not always commenting, but I'm following every update you post with awe. Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
Happy building :-) http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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michu wrote:Very impressive work. I'm not always commenting, but I'm following every update you post with awe. Thank you michu, I'll continue to update this build diary regularly, although in the next month I'll get my holidays and I do not think to be much productive with my model(s) . . Rgds, Jack.
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Beautiful work Jack, I do love watching your ship builds
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For post #200 a special edition . . Sunday August 9th, 2015Finally today I was able to leave my homecity and get my long awaited holidays: being myself retired from active work, I plan to stay away not 15 days but approx. 2/2.5 months . . I'll stay very few kilometers from Pisa, in Calci. Calci is a small town but hosts a wonderful national Museum, the "Certosa di Pisa" or better the "Certosa di Calci" built in 13° century. image%201_zpszvilqvq5.jpg In the past it was a big abbey, now it's an Anthropological Museum, where you can find Dinosaur skeletons . . 46824988_zpsfunuw2vz.jpg And a lot of whales skeletons . . calci.jpg_200781171030_calci_zpsuidi05rv.jpg I have taken with me the three launches shown in some previous images and a limited set of materials and tools: I hope to be able to produce something useful during my holidays but I don't consider it as absolutely mandatory. I'll keep you informed of the models work progress. Here below a short(?) intro to Pisa . . Regards, Jack.Aubrey. About PisaPisa is world famous for its Leaning Tower and Cathedral (inscribed on the UNESCO World Heritage List) and its many other medieval and Renaissance monuments. It is located in Tuscany, in the central part of the Italian peninsula, on a plain near the coast of the Mediterranean Sea close to the mouth of the river Arno. Its multicultural population totals about 100,000 people, in addition to the many thousands of students who enliven the city. The university buildings are located in the city itself, some in monumental historical buildings and others in new modern constructions. Together the University and the city form a single complex, a “campus in a city”, just as they have for many centuries. Pisa3_zps89tmrfwg.jpg In addition to the University the city hosts two prestigious Superior Schools: the Scuola Normale Superiore and the Scuola Superiore Sant’Anna di Studi Universitari e di Perfezionamento. The latter are centres for advanced studies and research in various disciplines: on the basis of a yearly national competition, they admit the best graduates of the Italian Upper Schools, who study at the University, and have special seminars and activities in the Schools. Pisa is an ideal place for students to live and meet in the city centre’s streets and piazzas, with their bars and pubs, as well as in the classroom. Both the beaches and the mountains are close and easily accessible, as are other famous Tuscan cities, such as Lucca, Florence, Volterra and Siena. The climate in Pisa is generally mild. The city enjoys cool summers and mild winters. There is some rain in autumn and winter although it rarely snows; the summers are dry and make for pleasant excursions to the sea. Pisa1_zpsca0fhu5r.jpg Miracles' SquareWith extraordinary effectiveness, the phrase «Piazza dei Miracoli» (the Miracle Square), coined by Gabriele D'Annunzio (1863-1938), epitomises the amazement and admiration that for centuries have seized those who, upon passing through the gateway of the circle of walls or emerging sideways from Via S. Maria, embrace in one single glance the pure whiteness of the monuments rising over the lush green of the turf. One is also amazed by the unique isolation of this group of monuments: the large area where the sacred buildings rise is actually on the edges of town, in the north-western corner, looking almost proud and distant from the daily bustle of the town. But a careful historical interpretation and the contribution of some recent archaeological findings give back to the Cathedral all its centrality, based on the original choice of the site and preserved through the centuries as the heart of the religious and civil life of Pisa. In order to fully understand it, one must place oneself in the maritime dimension that since Etruscan times has made the town great, located as it was in a favourable geographical site that placed it at the centre of a network of maritime, river and road routes, with a hinterland that offered a wide range of produce as well as wood and stone for its buildings, thus boosting the settlement of some important manufacturing facilities. The Auser River that no longer exists - used to flow close to the Square, first along the northern edge, then bending south into the Arno River. The Auser, a few hundred metres from here, near today's railway station of Pisa-San Rossore, hosted a river port which worked for one thousand years, from the Etruscan to the late Roman age, and which has come back to light after an extremely long period of oblivion, by the late XX century. It is just by rediscovering this older structure that the location of the Cathedral loses its seeming marginality to take on a new, fuller meaning: in the light of the process of Christianisation of Pisa that according to some recent studies seemed to come from the sea, the site takes an unusual centrality, which is no longer perceivable, if related to the nearby river port facility that kept working through to the V century AD. So, this was the place chosen for the Church of Pisa since its origins, which are unanimously considered to date from before Constantine's peace pact of 313. But the oldest sacred buildings were pulled down with time and the monuments we can admire today date back to the mid-centuries of the Middle Ages, when at the peak of its glory after its triumphs at sea Pisa asserted its supremacy over the region and all over the world, going so far as to claim for itself the role of a 'new Rome'. Such boundless pride and awareness gave birth to the plan to rebuild, near an earlier cathedral that has been rediscovered during recent archaeological excavations, the new church of Saint Mary founded in 1064, the year of the triumph of Pisa against the Saracens in Palermo, whose spoils were partly invested in building the church. The «temple of snow-white marble» this is how it was called by the author of the funereal inscription for its architect, Buschetto represented the whole civil and religious community; and it had to reflect its fame and power to the eyes of the world: epigraphs were placed on the façade to celebrate the main maritime victories; reused pieces of Roman monuments were fitted on the sides to highlight the greatness of Pisa as the 'other Rome'; the façade was richly decorated with ornamental features, such as the outstanding Arab-inspired polychrome lozenges; finally, the rooftop was adorned with the magnificent Islam-made bronze griffon which is now on display at the Museo dell'Opera (the original one has been replaced by a copy), coming perhaps from Spain and most likely arrived in Pisa with the spoils of some military expedition. The Baptistery, founded in 1152 on a design by Diotisalvi, was built in front of the Cathedral, lined up with its façade: a building that according to the latest studies is deeply imbued with the memories of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem, a fact that goes back to the issue of the influences and relations between the architecture of Pisa and the East. The whole town was involved in the construction of the building which had been designed to host the font where the people of Pisa were consecrated Christians: the contemporary chronicler Bernardo Maragone narrates that one of the eight pillars coming from the Isle of Elba and from Sardinia, placed inside the Baptistery in 1163, was lifted and set in its place by the inhabitants of Porta Aurea. The round plan of the Baptistery was taken up again in 1173 by the anonymous designer of the Bell Tower (Bonanno Pisano? or still yet once again magister Diotisalvi? ). A unique work in its roundness which recalls the curves of the nearby apses of the Cathedral, sharing with the other monuments of the Square the recurring motif of the pillars and small arches. Just after its completion the most famous monument in town was affected by that 'mysterious disease', which has made it famous all over the world and at the same time gave it the serious static problems that have been solved after over eight hundred years of trepidation by the strengthening work carried out in the 1990s. With the Bell Tower, the group of monuments of the Cathedral seemed to be complete; but in the thirteenth century, while the works went on and the buildings were enriched with wonderful works of art, two new buildings were added to the site of the Square as it looks today, both born on the decision of the great archbishop of Pisa, Federico Visconti. The New Hospital, was built south, imposed on the township in 1257 by Pope Alexander IV as a token of the reconciliation with the Apostolic See after over fifteen years of a crisis, designed to help pilgrims, the poor and the sick: it is the big building that today hosts the Museo delle Sinopie, where we are now. In front of this building, in 1277, a new cemetery began to be built for grouping the tombs which until then had been left scattered all around the Cathedral. This plan led to the building of the Cemetery, an extraordinary four-sided cloister which with its marble façade closes, on the north side, the «Piazza dei Miracoli» (Miracle Square) which had been conceived for the burial of the dead and instruction of the living, who were asked to ponder on life on earth and the eternal one through the magnificent series of frescos whose preparatory sketches the so called “sinopie” are now kept in this Museum. Pisa2_zpsflyhrvls.jpg
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