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Hi All I got a A.L. HMS Endeavour kit for father's day after persistent hints. I opened the kit about 2 weeks ago and made a slow start.
I found the instructions and photos provided quite primitive but never mind it makes it a bit more of a challenge. Never built a wooden ship model before so I've got a lot to learn! But I'm giving it my best shot.
Art
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Hi Art, hope you enjoy your build and I look forward to following your progress during the course of the coming weeks... good luck with the build.
Have noticed you have started 3 topics all the same, to continue to post on your diary simply click on the 'Post reply' button. Will arrange for your other to topics to be deleted.
Any assistance needed then just shout, lots of members here ready and able to provide all the help you need....
Regards
Alan
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Welcome to Modelspace Art, looking forward to seeing your build Steve
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Thanks Alan and Steve!
I'm sure I'll need heaps of help.
Art
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hi Art, lookingb forward to seeing this, i am on my first build too and get plenty of help from the other members. all the best Happy Modelling
Marc Heeley
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Hi Art, Welcome to the forum, if you get stuck feel free to ask. There are lots of talented people one here that can assist if required, I've already taken advantage of others advice with my first wooden ship build
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Welcome aboard Art, happy building. Rgds, Hans "It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully" Current Build: Endeavour Cross section,D51 Completed: HMS Victory Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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Well, I've constructed the false keel and cross sections and started planing the deck. All that seems relatively simple. I've shaped the bow and had to take off a lot of material but now seems OK. However I'm having problems with how to shape the stern. The infill part supplied seems much narrower than the plywood rear deck by 2-3 mm on each side? Also the plywood rear section cover that the rear windows go on, that goes over the back of the infill is also much wider than the infill? So if I shape to the infill then I would also have to cut back the plywood covers. But that does not seem right as they are laser cut and surely are supposed to be right size or at least close to. I guess I could build up the sides of the infill? I'd love to put a photo here but cant figure out how this program inserts them? Help.
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Hi Art I haven't built this kit but if you look at the instructions a bit further on it might show the stern and how it looks. If you resize your pictures to 600/450 they will come out as pictures and not download. Hope this helps Rgd Martyn Building ? Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa Next Build ? When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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I did a bit of research and there is a chap on Brit Modeller forum who is building the same kit and he found that when he shaped the stern to the infill width then the plywood transom parts were too wide by nearly 10mm and the rear windows would no longer fit if he cut it down. Thus I'm thinking of building up the infill at the stern to match the rear deck width and transom width.
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Thanks Martyn
Will try to resize my pics!
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Hi Art, I've not built this kit myself but I wouldn't go altering the plywood gallery parts too much, purely because they're lazer cut. I'd be more inclined to build up where necessary and see how the lines flow from there. Any chance of a pic looking straight down from bow to stern?
Hope this helps.
Regards
Alan
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Thanks Alan! I've come to the same conclusion. Given that two chaps that have built the same model on Brit Modeller forum have had problems when they reshaped the lazer cut plywood deck cover, then I think I'm well advised to not go that direction. So I bought some balsa sheet and I have started to build up the stern-infill piece and then shape to the lazer cut plywood deck piece and transome.
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I edited the pics to try to make them a bit clearer!
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Hi Art,
Thanks for the pics, they are a great help. From what I can see you’re right to not go shaping the deck section to match the supplied stern infill, that infill I would say is there to support the gallery section and to ensure it is set at the correct angle and curvature. I would do as you’re doing by adding balsa infills to the sides of the supplied infill, ensuring your added infills are wider than the last rib. One thing to consider is where the ends of the planking strips are attached to the gallery piece, (either inside the width of the gallery piece or attached to the outer edge), you may not be able to fit the gallery piece until after the infills have been shaped. When you come to fairing the ribs you would fair the added infills too. This will help to ensure you have nice flowing lines along the hull when you start the planking phase. Hope this helps but should you have any further queries then do get back to us.
Regards
Alan
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Ok. I've completed the deck planking.I've done the balsa infills for the stern section and tacked on the plywood gallery piece. I started the planking of the hull finishing off the planks to the inside of the gallery piece. I'm still a bit unsure how I will finish off bottom section of the stern though?
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Hi Art Nice start, will she be double planked and keep the pics comming Regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Art wrote:Ok. I've completed the deck planking.I've done the balsa infills for the stern section and tacked on the plywood gallery piece. I started the planking of the hull finishing off the planks to the inside of the gallery piece. I'm still a bit unsure how I will finish off bottom section of the stern though? Hi Art, she's coming along nicely. Couple of pointers here, if you resize your pics to 600 x 450 pixels before uploading you will find they appear on your diary, this would save members having to download to view. As for the stern, unless the instructions tell you otherwise then the plywood gallery piece gives you the profile and the only thing I'm unsure of is whether the bottom corners are square or rounded off. Ensure this gallery piece is fitted centrally to the stern and square. Your infills are fine but are only there as a guide to the planking and the planks finishing off inside the gallery piece is also the correct way to go, inset just enough to allow for the fitting of the 2nd planking layer and leaving the minimum of sanding/finishing off. The underside is done the same way unless the instructions direct otherwise. Can you show a couple of pics of the stern area either from the box or from the instructions..... Hope this helps and keep the pics coming, lovely work,,, Regards Alan
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Thanks Alan. I think the sides of the stern will marry ok with the gallery piece. But I think where I'm going to have to do some further modification is the juncture of the bottom of the gallery piece and the rear infill provided as again the gallery piece is about 5 mm too big. I was thinking of two options, or a combination of both. First being to file the bottom of the gallery piece down to fit, as long as the windows still fit in OK. The second is to again build up the area with balsa like the sides. What do you think might work better? I could move the gallery piece up but then the top would sit too high! File Attachment(s): Art attached the following image(s):
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