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Plank/Strake Thickness !! Options
RussG
#1 Posted : 17 September 2010 00:54:47

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Hi Shipmates.

Well i got my issues (19-21)today and was totally amazed at how thick the planking was! Could this be the reason it is only single planked an not doubled? I expected them to be 1mm thick and not 2mm !!!!!

I Intended to double plank but now Im wondering if it will be worth it!

Any comments appreciated especially from the seasoned builders.

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#2 Posted : 17 September 2010 01:01:44

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Hi Russ!! Good huh, nice thick planks!!Drool Cool I think the only way to decide if you need to double plank is to single plank first!!BigGrin I am going to do my damnedest to single plank, and I am painting, but if I am not happy then I shall double up using o.5 thick planks.BigGrin BigGrin
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#3 Posted : 17 September 2010 01:15:13

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Hi All

It will be interesting bending these planks. At least they will be easier to work with for tapering and shamfering than the thin double planks I have worked with previously. Will be a little more like the real thing. So I think I am looking forward to it.
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Tarbrush - I like how you say "I think I am looking forward to it". Hahahaha
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#5 Posted : 17 September 2010 21:12:10

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Hi McQ. If I get in a mess I could be as thick as two short planksLOL BigGrin

Sorry, couldn't resist meant to put it in the last post!!!Blushing
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hi,i started to plank today and the amati plank bender was not upto much..i gave the planks a very good soak in warm water and planking the bow formers was a doddle
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benny wrote:
hi,i started to plank today and the amati plank bender was not upto much..i gave the planks a very good soak in warm water and planking the bow formers was a doddle

I soak mine for a good few hours in warm water before I use the plank bender and didnt have a problem. Planked the Pearl ok. Is it getting hot enough????BigGrin
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hi jack you learn something new everyday..i have never used a plank bender before and i didnt know you soaked the planks before hand..thanks for that
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benny wrote:
hi jack you learn something new everyday..i have never used a plank bender before and i didnt know you soaked the planks before hand..thanks for that

I learned the hard way too!!!BigGrin Make sure they are well soaked and you will be ok.BigGrin
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#10 Posted : 18 September 2010 22:14:09

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Being a novice at this too, do you wait for them to dry first before fixing with pins?
The launch was myh first attempt at planking but because of their thinness I was able to fix them dry.
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#11 Posted : 18 September 2010 22:15:43

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Hi Benny! BigGrin

Issues 20, Page 11, Bottom right hand corner says If you are using an electric plank bender, soak the planks in water for 20 minutes beforehand. Press the planks over the shaped wooden former, forming tight curves in stages, rather than in one go.

If you do that the timber will be wet on the outside but only damp inside so give it a good long soak in warm water as this helps to open the fibres of the wood. Then as the heat is applied the water in the timber turns to steam and the plank will bend to the shape. The heat also dries the timber in its new shape, the Amati Plank bender has poor instructions and like you I found the Italian Plug is a laugh.

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cheers darron i wasnt sure what was wrong with it so i just cut it off and put a good ol british plug on it..sorted
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Best way Benny!

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Hi Benny
Blushing poking my nose in here but am bit concerned bout u cutting of plug

UK is 240Volts most other European countries 120Volts (not sure bout Italy)
doesn't 2 pin to 3 pin travel adaptors reduce the 240V to 120V

concerned in case plankbender gets too hot & scorch ure planks or worse
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with the planks being 2mm.thick,it leaves more scope for sanding down,then you can add the 2nd,layer of planking.the basswood (lime)supplied is quite soft so a good soaking you can easily bend it, the electric bender puts a perminate bend in,leaves less stress whilst glueing.I am guessing but I think de-ag. will require us to stain this wood to get the oak look,so I will be using a second layer to achieve this,probhibly walnut.I'm using the wife's computer,mine out of action for a couple of days,so can't put pics up,she has different software to me,so can only reply to what is being said.
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Try my method; get a thermo flask, fill it with hot water boiled straight from the kettle, then drop the plank in. The hotter the water the better, and the plank need only be in there for less than a minute.
Take it out and immediately offer it up to the hull and bend it round the required bow area; it will bend, hold the shape and because the water is so hot, it dries before you can fix the pins in.

Works a treat for me, no need for plank benders etc just a trusty flask and a kettle!

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Tiswas wrote:
Being a novice at this too, do you wait for them to dry first before fixing with pins?
The launch was myh first attempt at planking but because of their thinness I was able to fix them dry.
TIS



Hi Tis. You can glue and pin wet planks, just takes a little bit longer for glue to dry. Unless you're using super glue which loves wet surfaces and dries instantly, so no room for error.
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Hi guys, completely new to all this, been reading all the posts with zeal but unsure wether you need to soak planks if you are using the bending pliers, or is it best not to use them and go for the electric bending machine??Confused
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Richard Bolitho wrote:
Hi guys, completely new to all this, been reading all the posts with zeal but unsure wether you need to soak planks if you are using the bending pliers, or is it best not to use them and go for the electric bending machine??Confused


Welcome aboard matey. The planks are soaked in warm - hot water 10 - 20 mins depending on thickness this makes the planks easier to work with to bend. BigGrin
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Richard Bolitho wrote:
Hi guys, completely new to all this, been reading all the posts with zeal but unsure wether you need to soak planks if you are using the bending pliers, or is it best not to use them and go for the electric bending machine??Confused

I use an electric bender and soak yhem in hot water first. I really dont know about the other as I never really got to try it properly!! But the leccy one is really easy to use and I have used it on my Black Pearl without a problem!!BigGrin BigGrin
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