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Absolutely outstanding finish on this piece. I have a P-38 that I would like to try this technique on. How did you get the foil down inside all the nooks and crannies without it tearing? What kind of adhesive did you use? A video on how you did this is well in order. Simply beautiful work. They sell this stuff called Bare Metal Foil here in the US with the adhesive already on it. Comes in all differnt colors. I'll see if I can find a link somewhere. http://www.bare-metal.com/
Ron Best Regards,
Ron
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Incredible finish, cannot believe how good she looks using your method....  .. Eagerly awaiting your tutorial Kev, very well done....  Regards Alan
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Nytetrain wrote:Absolutely outstanding finish on this piece. I have a P-38 that I would like to try this technique on. How did you get the foil down inside all the nooks and crannies without it tearing? What kind of adhesive did you use? A video on how you did this is well in order. Simply beautiful work. They sell this stuff called Bare Metal Foil here in the US with the adhesive already on it. Comes in all differnt colors. I'll see if I can find a link somewhere. http://www.bare-metal.com/
Ron
Hello Ron and thanks for looking in and your nice comments, glad you like my work!! 
I will be doing a tutorial in late December/early January (written with photos and diagrams) which you will find all the answers to your questions in, so I hope you can wait until then as I wouldn't really be able to explain it in a few words here? Unfortunately I don't really have adequate video equipment to do a good job of that at the moment, so it will have to be in written format as I say. Maybe later next year I might be able to do a video?
The adhesive is called "Micro Metal Foil Adhesive" and is manufactured by 'Microscale Industries Inc.' - an American company so it ought to be readily available in the US? The instructions on the back of the bottle will partially explain how to apply the foil and I will explain the various tricks I used in my tutorial. As for the foil, this is a rare case where cheapest is best! If you can find some REALLY thin aluminium foil from a bargain store then that is the one to use. Don't use ordinary kitchen foil, as you would use for roasting in the oven, it is just too thick and won't work very well for this method when you start hitting curves? Hope that helps for now, but if you can wait I'll tell all in a few weeks - just too busy to put the tutorial together properly at the moment unfortunately? I am aware of the 'Bare Metal Foil' you mention, but it is quite expensive at around $6.95 for one 12 x 6 inch sheet! My method will cost about the same for a 300mm x 15 metre roll of foil AND the glue so enough to last for several years and it is essentially the same product?!
Kind of eerie that you have a 1:48 P-38 Lightning (beautiful aircraft) that you want to foil as that is precisely the aircraft that I intend to do in my next big project and is why I tried the method first on this P-51D Mustang as a test piece. The only thing I would say to you, is that there are an awful lot of 'compound' curves on a P-38, so it may not be the easiest for you to foil as a first attempt? Could be a "baptism of fire" for you so I would say practice on something a little less curvy first maybe until you get the hang of it? What scale is your P-38?
Hope that all helps?
Kev 
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I think I will wait to watch your tutorial first before I try this technique out. Yea, P-38 Lighting of Richard Bong. I live in Minnesota and they have his in a museum up here fully restored. One of my favorite aircraft of WWII. Look forward to the tutorial and seeing your P-38 build. Not sure the scale of mine. It's the bigger one... 1/48? Ron Best Regards,
Ron
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Hello Ron,
Yeah, the P-38 is one of my all-time favourite fighters, such a graceful and elegant machine (like most of Lockheeds' aircraft imho). Your 1:48 model is the same scale as mine and is a good scale to 'foil', though the bigger scale of 1:32 would be easier still I suppose? Richard 'Ira' Bong was a great pilot - must have been to receive the 'Medal of Honor' - and I love his personal aircraft "Marge" with his wife's photo on the nose? You are lucky to live so close to be able to visit it!! 
Thanks for your feedback and the chat Ron, much appreciated.
Kev
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Fantastic work Kev and you couldn't have hoped for a better finish! This is another example to prove that you don't have to spend loads of money on third party accessories to make a beautiful job, using basic everyday materials with a little patience and skill behind them can be just as effective! This is just like my style of modelling - why save up hard earned cash when you can scratch build for pennies and have more fun doing it!  Very well done indeed! Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Thanks for the kind words Robin, very much appreciated and I couldn't agree more - there is so much more fun to be had from 'scratching' parts yourself and an infinitely larger amount of fun to be had in the process? If I had used 'Alclad' paints or 'Bare Metal Foil' products on this it would have cost me more than a handful of money whereas doing it by using an 'el cheapo' roll of ordinary kitchen foil and a small amount of glue, I would estimate it has cost me no more than 30-40 pence all told (probably less), and was much more satisfying and great fun to do into the bargain? I'll certainly be doing more of this!!
I think we have similar views on how one should approach modelling Robin, which is why I really enjoy watching your builds too?!
Kev
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