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The Victory is my first wooden ship model. Built a gazillion plastic models but first time working with wood n' such.
I picked up an Artesania Latina nail nailer. Not sure what I'm supposed to do with this thing. Is it designed to drive the nail all the way in, or just barely? Is it adjustable? Once I drove a nail in all the way flush. Sometimes the nail barely breaks the surface.
I read a few reviews of it online. Some loved it. Some called it garbage.
Help.
Thanks.
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 Welcome mbl to the forum I must admit I have a nail pusher but tend not to use it . When I fit planks I drill a hole in the planks and push the nail in with a pair of needle nose pliers or you can use map pins to hold them down the best ones are the ones with the large flat heads  Hope this helps. Have fun building the Vic and I would love to see your progress . Rgd Martyn Building ?
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Hi MBL, great to hear from you.. For me, nail pushers have their uses especially in confined or hard to reach spaces and with practice they can be used to push pins all the way home or part of the way in. Controlling how far to push a pin in is tricky and no, they are not adjustable. I tend to use the same methods as Martyn, but some modellers stick with using nail pushers, it's all down to preferential tastes and what you feel most comfortable with that gives you the best results... .. Hope you're enjoying your build. Regards Alan
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Hi there MBL Good to see another first timer on the Vic! Like Alan and Martyn I've got one of those Nail Nailers too but hardly ever use it. I've also got its 'big brother' in the shape of a commercial panel pin pusher which has proved useful now and again. I think the nail nailer is a little too flimsy for pushing pins into hard woods, its very easy to put a 'kink' into the tube if you're not careful. The best method I found was to cut a strip of square section hard wood about 4mm square, then drill down through the length and insert a brass pin. Pre-drill the plank to avoid splitting the wood and then hold the square wooden 'washer' and tap the pin down. The square wood acts as a washer to clamp the plank down tight and also makes removing the pin far easier afterwards! Best of luck! Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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When using my pin pusher I tend to pre drill to avoid splitting the plank but also to make the "pushing" of the pin easier. This is particularly useful if the model uses any MDF for the frames (Not the case with the Victory) as this can be difficult to insert the pins if not pre drilled At least this way the pin goes where you want it. Current Build:-
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there is a way of making it adjustable by fitting a locking collar to the pin pusher small outer sliding sleeve and adjust the amount you want from the big sleeve there a allen screw in the collar to adjust with do not over tighten as you could jam the pinpusher
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Thanks for the responses everyone. This is THE hardest modeling tool I've ever tried to use. Sometimes it pushes a nail right in with ease, but that's rare. Usually it takes a ton of force for no result. Someone said it was good for tight spaces. But for me, that's the hardest time to use it. There's no way I can see that in a tight spot you can put enough force into the job to even get the nail started. I've had a couple go in in such spaces, but for the most part the force it would take fears me that I will snap the entire Victory in half in trying. Getting frustrated.
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Hi The good old pin pusher is a tool that can take some getting used too, you can with practice master it but this also depends on the wood your using if its too hard you will get the problems your having but if its soft the pusher will mark the wood. If the woods hard then try drilling a hole first if its soft go to your local model store and buy a collet that fits the pusher and set it just before it hits the wood. This is a tool that with practice can be an asset but it will take some time to get a technique that you are happy with. Regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Hi MBL, I have also had some frustration using the various nailers and have learned a different method of inserting the pins. I push them in with a pair of long nose pliers. I later modified an old pair by filing a grove that holds the pin. I have found that I have much more control of the pin. I have posted some pics in the Model making know how section under the name "Pin Inserting Tool" Hope this helps. Kind regards, Garth "Measure twice, cut once!!!"
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