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Hi, great to see you overcame the deck problems, all looking good... .. I'd hold off a little while and not bother buying pins, you'll get more than enough as the build progresses. Think the pins are supplied in issue 19 or 20 and the size being used are 8mm long.... .. Hope this helps. Regards Alan
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Long time no see. Finally got all the decks dewarped to my liking and it's high time to carry on. Only.... Remember those nails I got to replace the missing nails from issue 16 or 17? The nails specifically made for building ship models? Produced by Germanys biggest producer of tools and stuff for building ship models? Bought in a specialiced modeling store? They ain't magnetic. Say whaaaaaat? Who would do such a thing?
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None the less. YES! Finally. It ain't pretty (those nails were way too flimsy), but that doesn't matter here. Gonna add the other too rows of nailing plus an extra one to account for flimsyness tomorrow. Good night.
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Damn those nails!! I actually know all too well how frustrating that is as my nails supplied in the Trinidad kit wouldn't stick to the magnet in the Pin pusher that was also supplied in the kit. It didn't have anything to do with the fact that the pin pusher came in to contact with a brick wall while taking a flying lesson during a moment of frustration, with the magnet disappearing into oblivion
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My pin pushers (I have two for some reason ) are both ok. Tested this with some nails I have lying around from the OcCre steam engine.
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Hi Michael
Ribs and deck looking good.
Generally I didn't have to many problems with the nails for the decking but I made sure that I got the technique right as I went since I had never done this before. So any bent ones were replaced until I got the hang of it. Remember, you will need to use the pins again on the planking where errors will not be forgiven so make sure your happy with this. Personally, I decided not to use them for the planks which meant some innovations had to come into play to hold the planks in whilst the glue was setting.
Nice work.
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Hi, decking looking good, well done on fixing the warping problem... .. As for the nails, this is where I find it a great benefit to predrill pilot holes first, having done this myself I found I didn't have any issues using the pins supplied.... .. Keep the pics coming, very nice work going on here..... Regards Alan
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I luckily had some training beforehand techniquewise (I sunk about 300 nails into that boiler in the back) No, I think the nails I bought are just a bunch of limp noodles. Luckily for the planks I will have the actually supplied nails.
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As the others said, best wait for the real McCoy to turn up.
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z8000783 wrote:As the others said, best wait for the real McCoy to turn up. Yeah, absolutely should have done that. Turns out like maybe 10% of the FlimsyNailsTM managed to actually pentrate the ribs, the rest veered off into all sorts of directions underneath the deck. Ripped them all out again, grabbed the nails from issue 20. Muuuuuuuch better. Like not even the same kind of planet.
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Good job there Michael, keep it up. Rgds, Hans "It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully" Current Build: Endeavour Cross section,D51 Completed: HMS Victory Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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Hi micheal. coming along nicely. look forward to seeing your progress Ian Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood. Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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greyhawk wrote:z8000783 wrote:As the others said, best wait for the real McCoy to turn up. Yeah, absolutely should have done that. Turns out like maybe 10% of the FlimsyNailsTM managed to actually pentrate the ribs, the rest veered off into all sorts of directions underneath the deck. Ripped them all out again, grabbed the nails from issue 20. Muuuuuuuch better. Like not even the same kind of planet. I can't understand how anyone successfully uses those nail setters. I bought two and they're a waste of time as far as I'm concerned. I'm working on my first wooden ship and never attempted planking until a couple weeks ago. I finally got into a good groove. With a pin vise, I drill a hole just deep enough for the nail to rest in without me having to hold it. Then I nail it in just enough. Quick easy, and nothing risked like with the nail setter.
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I never had any problems myself with nail setters until I bought those BadNails. As I said, I sunk over 300 nails into that steam engines boiler and had maybe 3 that were problematic (flat ends on the nails). The important thing is to keep up even pressure and to hold the thing steady. Hammering will work in a lot of places. Here on the deck it's difficult because half of the time ribs are in the way of the hammers arc. The nail setter worked great once I used the correct nails.
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I have never got on that well with the traditional pin pushers. Either the nail falls out, gets bent or the like. For me the best thing i found is a pair of plier type pin pushers mine are by xuron Lots of retailers if you look but have a look at this link to see what i am talking about http://www.micromark.com...ertion-plier,10735.html
They are brill. You can hold the thinnest of pins well into the jaws to start the thing off with no bending twisting or other problems. Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette) COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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PROGRESS! Yes, incredibly, impossibly I'm finally a step further with the victory, the first deck is in and the fake gun emplacement is prepared. The whole falsely cut deck, warped deck, missing nails, wrong nails situation took a lot out of me and I had to pause a little with this build. Now I'm back with a vengeance or at least until issue 20 when the fairing begins and I'm sure to hop off onto the cross section.
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As you say, progress has been made. I say good progress too, she's coming together nicely...... Regards Alan
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Good to see the build progressing again. Its all looking fine. Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette) COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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Great to see more pieces added. Looking good. Chris. On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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greyhawk wrote: Now I'm back with a vengeance or not. Next deck is so warped the United Federation of Planets has requested a sample to build a better starship drive. Which means I'm jumping back on the Hood I guess while I get things in shape.
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