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MadDogMcQ
#1 Posted : 27 September 2010 17:02:25

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When I first considered subscribing to "Build The Victory", I though I was acting a little crazy considering I'm an out and out beginner, but now I know different.

I bought a Billing Boat model in 2006 (St. Roch) and although it's ranked as a beginners model, I found it extremely difficult to build due to the ridiculously inadequate instructions which amount to little more than elevation drawings.

In sharp contrast, the Victory has comprehensive instructions with detailed photographs, diagrams and text PLUS the immeasurable level of support on here.

So in my eyes, this build is suitable for Beginners.

Tom
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#2 Posted : 27 September 2010 17:49:15

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I have never liked Billings boats instructions, they are always vague to say the least, usually they say what to do then show a completed image, which to any beginner is not adequate.
But I do like their boats, I have only just finished building the Andria Gail
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#3 Posted : 27 September 2010 21:09:46

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When i built the Mayflower..it was a billings nightmare .Cursing but at least it was double planked ..to cover up the mess that was the first layer of planking..and vowed never again!!...but here i am building the victory (12 years later)...and the instructions are very good BigGrin BigGrin plus the added bonus of help on here ...yep it is a good start for beginers....which is more than i can say for the lancaster..fiddly little %$#%^&*%! pieces LOL
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#4 Posted : 28 September 2010 01:37:54

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i was just looking through the instructions for the amerigo vespucci as cornwall model boats has them in pdf on thier site to view anytime.

they are horendous so im now really dreading it. but the victory does have good instructions, kind of wish the endeavours was a little better?
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#5 Posted : 28 September 2010 04:09:22

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secretreeve wrote:
i was just looking through the instructions for the amerigo vespucci as cornwall model boats has them in pdf on thier site to view anytime.

they are horendous so im now really dreading it. but the victory does have good instructions, kind of wish the endeavours was a little better?



Hi secret

Got the link to those plans mate?
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#6 Posted : 28 September 2010 04:11:23

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http://www.cornwallmodel...log/mantua_manuals.html

there u go. they actually have the instructions for most if not all of thier part kit builds. which is handy, i think the vespucci is the top block, if not just look for the block titled amrigo vesspuci 1/84 scale
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#7 Posted : 28 September 2010 09:18:31

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Wow! Those instructions are MARVELLOUS compared to the St. Roch ones!! BigGrin

If you take a look at the St Roch Guide (CLICK), you'll see that it is pretty damned pathetic. It shows a little about the hull, then a bit about some other parts, but leaves LOADS out altogether and doesn't show you where on the boat the bits go anyway!! Altogether useless!!!

That Andrea Gail looks nice - wouldn't mind having a stab at that LoneStar! Post some pix.

Tom
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#8 Posted : 28 September 2010 09:45:42

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MadDogMcQ wrote:
Wow! Those instructions are MARVELLOUS compared to the St. Roch ones!! BigGrin

If you take a look at the St Roch Guide (CLICK), you'll see that it is pretty damned pathetic. It shows a little about the hull, then a bit about some other parts, but leaves LOADS out altogether and doesn't show you where on the boat the bits go anyway!!

Altogether useless!!!

And I thought my Black Pearl ones were bad!!Blink Good luck with that!!BigGrin BigGrin
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#9 Posted : 28 September 2010 11:17:25

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MadDogMcQ wrote:
Wow! Those instructions are MARVELLOUS compared to the St. Roch ones!! BigGrin

If you take a look at the St Roch Guide (CLICK), you'll see that it is pretty damned pathetic. It shows a little about the hull, then a bit about some other parts, but leaves LOADS out altogether and doesn't show you where on the boat the bits go anyway!! Altogether useless!!!

That Andrea Gail looks nice - wouldn't mind having a stab at that LoneStar! Post some pix.

Tom


here are a few from the build I did, to get me back into the awing of things lol

http://forum.model-space...t.aspx?g=posts&t=980
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#10 Posted : 28 September 2010 11:55:09

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Thanks for that link - you did a great job! I want it even more now BigGrin.

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#11 Posted : 28 September 2010 20:47:51

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Thanks for the link mate.
wish I had the spair dosh to have a go at that shipCrying

Bob
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#12 Posted : 28 September 2010 21:18:37

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boaz its not to expensive if you really take ur time and stretch it out over a long period lol
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#13 Posted : 28 September 2010 23:08:01

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Yes, spread over time, the cost of a small boat model isn't too great, but nevertheless, £90 is £90! Subscribing to the magazine makes it all so much more manageable doesn't it?

Anyway, I decided to put my Billing Kit onto a Blog so that anyone else having a go at it might benefit. Having said that, I doubt anyone would benefit from watching what I do BigGrin LOL BigGrin

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#14 Posted : 29 September 2010 02:05:58

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A small boat model is looking on the cards at the moe.
See how I get on with this big beasty over the next couple of months first.
I gather the Titanic Lifeboat is a deecent price to have a go at.
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#15 Posted : 29 September 2010 06:01:34

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MadDogMcQ wrote:
Yes, spread over time, the cost of a small boat model isn't too great, but nevertheless, £90 is £90! Subscribing to the magazine makes it all so much more manageable doesn't it?

Anyway, I decided to put my Billing Kit onto a Blog so that anyone else having a go at it might benefit. Having said that, I doubt anyone would benefit from watching what I do BigGrin LOL BigGrin

BILLING BOATS - ST. ROCH BLOG

Tom



actually i was refering to the amerigo lol but yes £90 is still £90 but what more worth it? £ or more or having something that you have built lasting years and everything u look at it feeling proud that YOU built it?
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#16 Posted : 29 September 2010 09:19:06

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After i see the success/unsuccess of this build. I plan to spend a fiver each on the plans for various ships and boats then scratch them.
It seems the process is as straight forward as this one is. Building them pretty much the same way. Keeping the cost at minimum.
But i would really love the Pearl. Dont think they come as just plans tho.
i dont know what weapons will be used in ww3 but ww4 will be sticks and stones.
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#17 Posted : 29 September 2010 09:48:44

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piot007 wrote:
After i see the success/unsuccess of this build. I plan to spend a fiver each on the plans for various ships and boats then scratch them.
It seems the process is as straight forward as this one is. Building them pretty much the same way. Keeping the cost at minimum.
But i would really love the Pearl. Dont think they come as just plans tho.

I have the plans from my kit, including a parts list. I should imagine you could scratch it from those.BigGrin
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