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Having read the magazine about 15 times it seems to imply that when glueing the planking that only the points where it touches the ribs needs to be glued.
I have not see it mentioned anywhere that you should glue the edges of the planks together i.e. glue the whole length of the plank.
What is the feeling amongst the members here about this.
John
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It is a must to glue the edges of the planks ,particulaly when you go to cut out the gun ports ,it will all start to come apart around the gun ports, planks springing out etc. hope this helps 
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i agree, you must glue the edges of each plank as you will end up with sprung planking at every gunport, this will not allow the planking to flow around the hull and will be almost impossible to rectify without major clamping. current builds
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Thanks guys, yes I forgot about the gun ports, obvious really when you think about it.
It wasn't clear from the instructions though, well at least to me anyway.
John
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You were right though, in the teaser video, it clearly shows the guy only glueing the ribs. You might get away with that if the model is double planked, but not on single planking, with gun ports. Interestingly, my AL Endeavour was double planked, but the gun ports were only dummys with no need to cut any deeper than the veneer. Bummer, now I look back, that I didn't go all the way and modify it, to include the extra guns.  Part time modeller, full time biker
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z8000783 wrote:Having read the magazine about 15 times it seems to imply that when glueing the planking that only the points where it touches the ribs needs to be glued.
I have not see it mentioned anywhere that you should glue the edges of the planks together i.e. glue the whole length of the plank.
What is the feeling amongst the members here about this.
John Step 14 of issue 21 says to apply glue to the frames and to the lower edge of the planks, all of the hull planks should be glued to both frame and along their length to each other.
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You're right, I missed that. I guess I need to read it all a few more times.
I also noticed it's in the build diary, sorry about that.
Thanks.
John
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It will also make the ship a hell of a lot stronger!
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Mornin all. Can anyone tell me if this is a bad idea. After shaping and bending the planks to the desired effect. Is it a bad idea to shave off up to 45degrees on the backside of the plank. top and bottom to make the join seamless. So instead of of rectangular shaped plank( looking down the length) its now a parallelogram. Laying on top of each other would make it 'lock' into position. Maybe buying new planks that were 1mm wider to compensate for the loss of material on the floor. Or is this just far too much work to bother with. piot007 attached the following image(s): i dont know what weapons will be used in ww3 but ww4 will be sticks and stones.
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sounds a good idea, but prehaps Tomick could shed some light on this Brian
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piot,have a look at my victory build,and have a look at my joints,is that what you mean?all the strakes on my build have 45degree joins,when these are sanded down,they become almost invisible. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Excellent example and illustration Chris!!!! nicely done! Ship Builds on the go
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piot007 wrote:Mornin all. Can anyone tell me if this is a bad idea.
After shaping and bending the planks to the desired effect. Is it a bad idea to shave off up to 45degrees on the backside of the plank. top and bottom to make the join seamless. So instead of of rectangular shaped plank( looking down the length) its now a parallelogram. Laying on top of each other would make it 'lock' into position. Maybe buying new planks that were 1mm wider to compensate for the loss of material on the floor. Or is this just far too much work to bother with. It does seem like over-engineering in the areas where the planks lay flat anyway. John
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hi all do we have to shape all the planks
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Quote:do we have to shape all the planks No, not all of them, and not the entire length on certain planks, just offer them up to the part of the hull that your planking and see what needs a little sanding. The above shaping is vital to avoid any gaps between the length of the planks. Don't just bung the plank on, always dry fit first (holding the plank up against the hull) Take your time and it will be perfect. Hope that helps.
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many thanks zeptrader
cheers turboman
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