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Saturday, January 30, 2016After having applied a few more strakes it's now time to remove the hull from this building slip because I can no more effectively use the standard clamps to hold the strip while the glue dries. But I am sure that it's unlikely, at this point, the hull will be deformed. . And soon we will also see how she looks like inside . . 01 31012016 P1100459.jpg 02 31012016 P1100462.jpg 03 31012016 P1100463.jpg 04 31012016 P1100460.jpg 05 31012016 P1100461.jpg Regards, Jack. PS: do not pay attention to the different lengths of the strips at the bow and stern; some were long, some even almost short, when I'll finish the planking I expect a little extra work to fix these two areas. .
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birdaj2 wrote:It really does look a brilliant kit.
Not sure that manufacturer is available in the UK but i will keep looking as i would certainly like to get hold of this one. I bought the kit via internet at the manufacturer site: http://www.dusekshipkits.com/
He ship all around Europe.
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jack.aubrey wrote:birdaj2 wrote:It really does look a brilliant kit.
Not sure that manufacturer is available in the UK but i will keep looking as i would certainly like to get hold of this one. I bought the kit via internet at the manufacturer site: http://www.dusekshipkits.com/
He ship all around Europe. I am guessing he will ship worldwide. Send him an email... he got back to me within a day to let me know he shipped to the US. Great progress on the build Jack... loving this build so far... Ron Best Regards, Ron
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Jack Many thanks. I will drop them an email and ask about shipping. Your build is looking so good and very neat and tidy. Happy Modelling
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Monday, February 1st, 2016The photos here below are obviously not so great, being them shot using my smartphone in low light conditions, but still give an idea of how the hull looks like when the model was detached from its building board. 01 20160201_165033.jpg From this moment it's possible to reuse the first building board I made, although theoretically the hull does not deform anymore, but it makes easier working inside. Later today I finally installed the internal deck, after having applied a coat of glue inside the shell. With the deck installed this coating cannot be seen and then I took the opportunity to further strengthen the planking of the hull. 02 20160201_164938.jpg 03 20160201_164930.jpg 04 20160201_164923.jpg Regards, Jack.
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Sunday, February 21st, 2016 Just a brief update on this build: when I installed the deck I made a small but unrecoverable mistake, that anyway most probably will be corrected more in advance.
But this fact had a negative impact on my enthusiasm with the result I did nothing for a while. When I was ready to resume I got a problem on my right shoulder that stopped me for another week.
So I restarted only yesterday, continuing with the planking. But I cannot proceed as fast as I'd like and I can install only a plank per side each day. As soon as I'll have something showable 'll resume the log with new comments and images. Kind regards, Jack.Aubrey.
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Jack I think we all have times such as this when builds have to stop for one reason or other. Hope your health improves and look forward to seeing your next updates on this one. Happy Modelling
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Looking forward to seeing this get underway Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Monday, February 22nd, 2016After twenty days from my latest update, I'm publishing, more due to desperation than anything else, the photos of this Viking ship model, stressing the fact that during this time I have not made much progresses. The reasons were many, but certainly one is mainly related to the greater complexity of the planking with the clinker system. Now I nicknamed it as "Klingon" system, named after the alien race in the Star Trek saga, so much hard and "time consuming" this system is: between the installation of a half plank and the remaining half (remember that a strake is made of two pieces, one of about 2/3 the total length and the other the remaining 1/3) it's necessary to wait that the glue will dry very well before to proceed further. Due to this fact I'm more or less forced to work with short sessions of one hour or less at a time and it may happen I can not always apply an entire course per side during one day. Hence the long lead times which certainly do not stimulate the wish to continue. At the time, I reached the point illustrated by the pictures below: three courses per side are still needed to finish the planking, but before their installation it's necessary to clean the top of the frames, over which there is some waste material coming from the removal of the hull from the overturned building board, and apply new elements to complement the existing frames. Let's begin with a vertical overview image, where you can see that the hull curve trend is pretty straightforward, with some few exceptions still remediable: with the "Klingon" system some advantages also exists and one of them is that if a course does not fit perfectly or has a bad curve trend, you can easily mask it with the next course, provided it is correctly installed. 01 25022016 P1100465.jpg A detailed view of the bow area . . here I have not yet fully completed the installation of the last course: it remains to glue the plank on the last three frames and on the stem, but because of the curve that takes up rather strongly, I prefer separate the work in two steps. 02 25022016 P1100466.jpg An overturned hull view of the midship area . . 03 25022016 P1100477.jpg Overal view of three-quarters and detail of the stem, where you can watch the significant mess I made with the length of the individual strips; and this happens also at the stern. An issue I'll pursuit when the planking is off . . 04 25022016 P1100464.jpg 05 25022016 P1100468.jpg Finally, the stern area, definitely resulting better than the bow . . here the curve trend of the strakes is much better and did'nt create any problem . . instead the bow was, in my case, very different !! 06 25022016 P1100470.jpg To the next step, Jack.
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Monday, February 29, 2016As I already mentioned in a previous post, before continuing with the installation of the last three planks it was necessary to start some new, but preliminary activities. In the days between my last post and now, I proceeded to perform these following tasks: 1) - Clean up the upper end of the frames from some waste material produced during the task of detaching the hull from its board: the removal had occurred using a mini-drill power tool with a cutting blade; the finishing, instead, was done with abrasive pads. 2) - Installation of new segments on many frames in order to continue with the necessary framing structure for the next planks; in particular this activity, apparently simple, needed to adapt these new parts to shape the correct bevel angle, otherwise they couldn't be applied as suggested by assembly instructions. 3) - Finally, with more in mind the objective to test the goodness of my approach with the colour scheme than for a real need at this stage, I proceeded to stain the interior of the planking and the visible part of the frames. This to make sure that the dye was properly distributing on the wood, also when there are some glue residuals, due to the non-easy task of removing the glue in excess during the planking. To achieve this goal, I modified the dye, prepared some time ago, by adding a good amount of alcohol to the mordant: this trick has meant that the soaking ability is now higher and, above all, it also worked in the presence of underlying glue. From the proposed pictures below, it seems to work perfectly . . . 01 29022016 P1100480.jpg 02 29022016 P1100481.jpg 03 29022016 P1100478.jpg 04 29022016 P1100482.jpg 05 29022016 P1100479.jpg Obviously this mordant fluid, that should primarily simulate the caulking that was run all over the hull by the Vikings by using tar, is no doubt dark, but it was so made, so it's right . . One last point: this really dark colour helps very much in hiding any defect of construction. I believe that once I'll apply some coats of transparent paint, rigidly opaque, everything will seem perfect and also the gloss and opaque areas that can now be observed, especially in the last picture shown, will disappear completely. Although I'm wondering if the realism rules would suggest to keep partially gloss/opaque as I don't think tar produces an nice and clean effect . . probably the opposite . . At this point I should be able to continue with the installation of the last planks . . Regards, Jack.
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Friday, March 11, 2016I finally finished the planking laid down with the "Klingon" method.I have to admit it was a really great experience, from which I learned many things: first to proceed slowly. From the three-four strakes per side that typically I can apply during a working session with the "carvel method"", with the "clinker" it was a success when I was able to apply one strake per side every two days. Probably, if a strake should be made with a single strip rather than by two probably I would have needed half the time I spent. A possible idea for an improvement to the author of this kit. However it was a considerable good exercise for my patience, property I think to own a lot. In addition, as I proceeded away from the keel, the initial errors grew, so I had to spend time and efforts to fix some things . . if you watch closely the attached images you will see some frames where I had to insert some wood to get a proper curvature, without "valleys or hills". Now that the laying of the planks is over, a phase of arrangement of the whole complex begins, starting from the two hull ends but also from the reconstruction of the modified frames where I had to add wood. But all these tasks worries me much less than what I have done until now. However the shape of this boat is spectacular . . Now that I came out from the "Klingon planking" tunnel I plan to keep my diary updated regularly. See you next time, Jack. 01 11032016 P1100483.jpg 02 11032016 P1100489.jpg 03 11032016 P1100484.jpg 04 11032016 P1100487.jpg 05 11032016 P1100490.jpg 06 11032016 P1100485.jpg 07 11032016 P1100488.jpg
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Jack Lovely update on your build diary but you have convinced me this is certainly not a kit i would be able to work with as it looks far to complex. Happy Modelling
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Hi Jack, think you have done a great job on planking this one, looks great..... .. Think trying to plank a hull showing a clinker effect is probably one of the hardest planking tasks to master and you have mastered it really well. Thanks for sharing, great learning experience for anyone thinking of taking on this kind of build..... Regards Alan
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birdaj2 wrote:Jack
Lovely update on your build diary but you have convinced me this is certainly not a kit i would be able to work with as it looks far to complex. Hi Tony, nice point . . the clinker planking is certainly more complex than the usual one, but at the end the satisfaction is also greater !! I think that in absence of previous experiences the best thing should be to buy two kits of the same model: the first to play and the second to get serious. Surely the second chance will be perfect !! Jack. Gandale wrote:Hi Jack, think you have done a great job on planking this one, looks great..... .. Think trying to plank a hull showing a clinker effect is probably one of the hardest planking tasks to master and you have mastered it really well. Thanks for sharing, great learning experience for anyone thinking of taking on this kind of build..... Regards Alan Thanks you Alan for your positive comments, I've greatly appreciated your opinion. Jack.
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Friday, March 18, 2016First I worked a little inside the boat: I added an element not present in the kit, but I found listed in the Nicolaysen monograph, the archaeologist who in 1882 discovered this ship. It is a reinforcement on the last strake which also implements a small gunwale. On the model it is, in practice some 1x3 strip clips inserted inside, between a frame and the other. 01 20160318_141156.jpg Finally I filled with a mixture of glue and wood dust the inside of the bow and stern, in proximity of the keel, to provide a greater reinforcement to the strips bonding in this area. Then, to better hide this I applied an "ad hoc strip" of veneer that hides everything. . 02 20160318_141205.jpg 03 20160318_141202_HDR.jpg Then I worked to refine the exterior of the keel area, particularly at the bow and at the stern, where I made a little mess during the planking. Here too I used veneer that allowed me to settle for good the areas subject to the treatment. Don't care about different types of timber used because you will not see any difference when it will be dyed. . 04 20160318_141117.jpg 05 20160318_141020.jpg 06 20160318_141048.jpg It may seem little thing, but it took me four 1.5-2 hours working sessions each to come here. I also planned and I am now preparing a further building slip, more practical of the first I built, for the continuing of this build. But this is not yet finished. A friendly greeting, Jack.Aubrey.
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Impressive work Jack and a credit to your skill and patience.... Regards Alan
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Looking very impressive. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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Looking brilliant and such a classic shape to a craft such as this. Happy Modelling
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WTG Jack, The last three pics show a great planking job. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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I am really enjoying this build and quite fancy this model myself Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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