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Britain may receive packages flown by UAV before the USA.. http://www.dailymail.co....ery-drones-Britain.html
What's the bet that air rifle sales will be on the up and lawyers already rubbing hands for reams of invasion of privacy cases..
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i do think this is a stupid idea, as you say people will take a pop at them, and what if something goes wrong with them, we could be talking thousands of them in our skies.
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Yep I agree with Tomick, prime target for air rifles, stolen packages, damaged cars when they get bought down. Don't think they have thought this through properly!
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I don't think this will take off if you excuse the pun.
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i dont think it will happen in USA anytime soon.Far too many ambulance chasing laywers to cash in on injuries Carl
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Just wait for the first one to have a battery or engine failure and it drops on someones head the lawyers will have kittens of joy. Apparently they will be restricted to lanes at 300ft height and about 100 feet wide a sort of drone highway for delivery's. No need for airguns security people already have a drone catcher that takes over the signal and lands it at your feet, so all they need to do is hack the site to cherry pick all the expensive items on the way to customer. Another thing said today was that its a foolproof unhackable system that just wont go wrong and as we all know nothing is unhackable so its already looking like the Hindenberg. To be able to get a delivery you will need to buy a 'Landing Mat' from them and it must be placed outside so the drone can deliver the item, another advert to the thieves that something expensive may be due for delivery. Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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I think this is a disaster waiting to happen.
When someone says something is unhackable that's just an open challenge to all would be hackers
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Won't even need to hack. A well placed rugby ball will do the trick lol
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It could potentially be unhackable or at least much more difficult to hack if the instructions are loaded onto the system before it launches. As long as its not capable of receiving in flight instructions and does not monitor for communication it should in theory be safe from hacking. That of course would limit its functionality quite spectacularly though. Finished 3D Printer, RB7, Hummer, Skyrider drone & Combat tank collection http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Well, I love the idea and I think it will take off; if not now then definitely within 10-15 years. Unhackable - yeah, that's definitely possible. It's just enough if all of the communication goes over a channel secured with asymmetric cryptography, where the key pair is generated individually per flight. Any tampering would require physical access to the drone. The issues to solve are quite different: range and maximum load, not the safety. Automated systems will be safer than controlled by an user, and we have plenty of these flying already. Lawyers waiting for an accident to happen? I think it's a bit over exaggerated. If done correctly there will be less accidents than there are caused by delivery vans. Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
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The high risk of litigation is the exact reason why Amazon are holding back in the USA.
Not only that, it won't just be Amazon will it, before you know it the sky will be full of them, also it's not delivery to your door simply because the CCA will never allow it.
I can see it working well in rural situations, but not elsewhere for much the same reason why the cone seller is unlikely to be given any leeway by the CAA.
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And that's fine, especially since the deliveries to rural locations make the highest cost for the couriers and drive the cost of services in cities up. It will start there, allow the technology to mature and prove its safety, which will be a gateway to further development of such services. We are living in the future, there's no stopping that. Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
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But the CAA can stop anything they don't like the idea of lol
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Tomick wrote:The high risk of litigation is the exact reason why Amazon are holding back in the USA.
Not only that, it won't just be Amazon will it, before you know it the sky will be full of them, also it's not delivery to your door simply because the CCA will never allow it.
I can see it working well in rural situations, but not elsewhere for much the same reason why the cone seller is unlikely to be given any leeway by the CAA. I think the distances they would need to travel in USA in rural areas would be a problem not to mention the irresistable opportunity for someone with a gun to take a shot at what would be a pretty easy target to hit.And how much could they really carry? Plus it would be incredibly inefficient to deliver one package at a time to a rural area. I could see in an urban area dropping packages within a few miles of a warehouse, but in my area the nearest big city is 45 miles away. Carl
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Time to dust off the 12 bore lol . I would just like to know with all the helicopters and military aircraft flying around here at low level how are they going to police it ? Rgd Martyn Building ? Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa Next Build ? When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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I still find it hard to see how this could be cost effective (what do i know). Had a delivery the weekend and the van was crammed full of parcels so just on the speed aspect i cannot see how a drone or several drones would be more efficient than using a van. Not sure if it was on here but i seem to recall reading that the customer would have to put a "landing pad" in a suitable place because the gps brings the thing to an area but cannot pin point an exact house address. Early days i guess and you have to start these projects off at some point but just imagine how confused the thing will get if there is no one in to accept the package. Happy Modelling
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If you need a landing pad, they will probably incorporate the hire of one in the Prime subscription. It's obviously prime members who have the most deliveries, so it maybe more economical to use drones than endless free next day deliveries.
I can only see them carrying items up to a certain value though due to security risks. A bit like only being able to use contactless cards up to £30. Will be mainly used for books, computer games and DVD's, that sort of thing.
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It still looks strange to me. Just been looking at the clarkson video on this link it all looks most odd. http://www.telegraph.co....ck-to-the-future-world/
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