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Looking pretty good amipal...keep the pictures coming... Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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doremi495 wrote:Re your query about masking tape. I use Tamiya masking tape, available from model shops. You can get it in different widths. It's not cheap but you get a perfect straight line everytime. Hope this helps. Thanks for the tip! I'll get hold of some of that for myself - Cornwall models should do it I guess?
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jonny7england wrote:Looking pretty good amipal...keep the pictures coming... Cheers Jonny! I've finally received issues 16-19, so I'll be able to make a start on the Victory soon. And they'll be more photos definitely!
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With the launch out of the way (for now), the actual Victory build can begin in earnest! Huzzah! First things first, I began by fitting and pinning the lower gun deck. I did this using the tool supplied with the kit, which I thought worked rather well. However, once you begin applying pressure, you're never really sure where the pin is going to end up on its journey through the deck... However, enough of them made it to provide a strong base for the lower gun deck. The lower gun deck in place. At this point, I turned the vessel onto her back and applied the diluted PVA to the ribs and deck. Once left overnight this was incredibly rigid, but I gave it another dose once dry to ensure it was completely glued. The supports on either side of the lower fun deck didn't really provide too many issues. I was able to accurately saw to the correct depth to bend them correctly and begin gluing in place: Once I'd glued and pinned one in place, I decide to try another method: This made it a lot easier to get the pins in their correct positions to begin with, and meant that I didn't make a horrendous mess like this: SNAP! Yup, one of the ribs couldn't take the stress from me applying too much pressure with the pinning tool. Luckily the break was clean, and went back together easily enough with judicious use of PVA and superglue in the crack. I decided to bolter the break with some scrap wood to ensure everything would remain strong once the glue was dry: That is hopefully the end of the drama for my current work-in-progress. I've now fitted the supports for the middle gun deck without any issues, and have also painted the lower gun deck supports in Vallejo Black: Now to wait for the next batch of issues! I've begun to fit the rear pieces from issue 19, but will cover those in my next posting.
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Very nice in deed amipal, I had a similar accident as you after applying too much force and like yourself, ample glue and spare wood to strengthen the join...all is back on schedule... Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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jonny7england wrote:Very nice in deed amipal, I had a similar accident as you after applying too much force and like yourself, ample glue and spare wood to strengthen the join...all is back on schedule... Stupidly I'd forgotten to put anything under the one rib after doing all the others! Oops...
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And so the build continues... First up, I fitted the last part of the ribbing and the rear brackets. This was easy enough, and they didn't sag under their own weight due to the tight fit: Next up was fitting the middle gun deck support beams, then testing that the deck itself fit correctly. As you can see, there was a bit of a misalignment with the forward mast hole. I sanded the deck itself to try to get the two ellipses to make a better circle: Dry-fitting the middle gun deck beams, no issues here: I was rather surprised to read that we were to draw in the visible planks of the middle gun deck. I thought this was a bit of a cheating way of doing things - I knew that if I didn't do something that I thought would look better, I'd forever look upon the lines of pencil with an air of annoyance! So using some spare exterior planking, I began to measure and cut things up: Vallejo black applied to the edges of all planks to represent the caulking: Test-fitting the painted planks: I added some of the black paint to the PVA when I glued them in place, meaning that when the glue inevitably squeezed through the cracks, it didn't look odd. And yes, its a helluva mess at this point!: And the finished planks in place. These were sanded flat by hand - the hull planking is quite thick, so needed a bit of work done on it before it was thin enough. I kept both port and starboard section next to each other to ensure the planking would be level on both: I then glued all of the middle gun deck sections in to place, using items from my kitchen cupboards to help keep them in place: And here it is, the (almost) finished middle gun deck planking. I did think about leaving it as is, but on second thoughts I'll apply a walnut stain to get the correct colouring ( link): Next up was fixing the final parts of the bow in place before fairing could commence: And then something had to be done about the infamouse rib 15: And that's about it for now! Again, I've moved on since taking these images, so the next update should include the fairing and some (eep!) hull planking. Thanks for looking! :edit Wrong image linked!
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Looks good from here M8y... Well done.. On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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looks good amipaL i thought the same as you about the pencil planks so i planked the whole deck but i ran a black permanent marker down the edges cheers benny
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Looking good! Just be careful when you are fairing the hull not to much pressure with that file. Don't what another Rib Cracking Moment! Keep up the good work! Darron
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Thanks for the comments guys, much appreciated! After working on the planking for the middle gun deck, I've now managed to convince myself that I should have done more... I blame it on these images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28321983@N02/4815564454/in/set-72157624551492058/http://www.flickr.com/photos/28321983@N02/4814943951/in/set-72157624551492058/Please, someone convince me not to rip up the current deck to build this!!
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And so it continues... First of all, apologies for the yellow tint - I got my white balance particularly wrong and also deleted all my RAW files before realising. Fairing really was the longest stage of the build so far. I was scared enough by the thought of planking the vessel, but knowing that a lot of that boils down to the initial fairing made me spend quite a bit of time on it. Therefore this instalment will be rather brief, even though it covers a glacial range of time. The stern: The bow: The infamous Rib 15, built up with spare launch planking, then sanded smooth: Hopefully this shaping of the ribs sections should provide an adequate support for the planking. I have started on the rear though: Unfortunately this first plank was a bit misaligned. I didn't notice this until all the other planks were in place. Also, a few of the pins went all the way in... Does it matter? Should I remove and reglue them before carrying on?
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hi ..i would its only one plank so get it right and it will cause you less probs later...cheers paul cheers benny
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benny wrote:hi ..i would its only one plank so get it right and it will cause you less probs later...cheers paul Unfortunately I have the other ones against it now! I'll see what I can do to remove it, as its quite obvious.
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hi,are u single planking cheers benny
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benny wrote:hi,are u single planking I am. I've managed to remove the planks and reattach. They're not perfect, but much better than the previous wrongness!
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Good job mate. Good luck with planking. You need to take it easy, no rushing there :) Tom
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tom.ganc wrote:Good job mate. Good luck with planking. You need to take it easy, no rushing there :) Thanks! I'll try not to rush the planking - afterall, its what people will see! I'm painting my Victory, so will probably do a bit of sanding and filling of the outer hull once all planks are in place to get a nice smooth finish.
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The end of 2010, I finally managed to get some planking started! So I continued this into 2011. It wasn't too problematic in the end, I think my fear of mucking it up held me back for too long. Here's a view from the stern of the work in progress: I don't have a plank bender, so I soaked the bow planks for 20 minutes in hot water before gently bending them around the frames. I then pinned these in place and left over night for the wood to dry and keep its shape: I've now fitted six rows, and am ready for the marking and cutting of the gun ports. I'm slightly worried by this, as I feel like I've done a good job so far - I don't really want to cut into it! Forestalling the cutting, I decided to work on a bit more of the planking at the front of the ship, as well as shaping the gallery area around the stern: And that's it for now. My next instalment will contain holes in the hull, as well as some blood, sweat and tears I expect.
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looks great amipal. Started mine a day or so back. Just fixed the lower gun deck and shaped the gun supports just go to glue it all together but been out all day so no go today.
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