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jeff averre
#1 Posted : 24 November 2010 16:28:45

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Well, my assumption and probably most others about the size of the Gun Ports was a bit out! I was expecting the linings to be 1mm x 4mm not 1.5mm x 4mm. This gives an opening size of 9mm not 10mm. I intended using 1mm linings and adding a second lining of .5mm x 2mm which would be set back from the outside by about 1.5mm giving a rebate, but as I don't know the size of the gun port hatch (which would be flush with the outside planking when closed) I'm not sure where to go, especially since I've made a 'jig' to manufacture gun port openings of 10mm!
Possibly another reason to issue some plans as the kit advances!
Jeff
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#2 Posted : 24 November 2010 16:37:00

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Couldn't agree more, having the plans at an early stage would make far more sense. I built the Bismark and the Titanic and did not recieve the plans until about two thirds of the way through the build. They would be a big help especially when we start doing decks and fittings etc.
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#3 Posted : 24 November 2010 16:38:58

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Hi
i agree with you on the size of the hatches do need to know the sizes i have already lined all my ports with 0.5mm x5mm walnut,with a second lining within the opening of the same size wood set back approx 1mm which i have yet to fit waiting untill the hull is more finishedLOL
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#4 Posted : 24 November 2010 17:45:41

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I would of though if you cut a 12mm square, then line it with 1.5, thus giving you 9mm, then your hatch would be the 9mm?

As I've cut to 10mm, and added the mantels and lintels giving the inside leg measurement of just over (by such a small margin) 9mm. The gap left, the hole itself needs to have a lid, so whatever your size is the size to make the hatches..or wait till this comes along in the series.

I also doubt if family or friends will be viewing your ship with a tape measure BigGrin
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#5 Posted : 24 November 2010 18:03:29

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Its likely the port lids will be individually cut from 9mm wide strip to suit the size of port in the kit.
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#6 Posted : 25 November 2010 21:09:15

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Just a one for Zeptrader, my maths like most on here is up to simple arithmetic, I did'nt want to spell out every detail just to make a point that plans would help when possibly modifying some items on the kit.
When I first applied for this build I, as a newby, was just going to do as per instructions but was drawn in by the regular builders that we could improve the kit with a little modification here or there. Now I could just put the (magazine) issues to one side for six months, then I would know what's coming, but I enjoy getting my deliveries so that I can 'crack on'.
There's been lots of discussion about the gun ports and some of the guys have already made modifications but most are probably 'preparing' there mods and materials so they are ready to go when the time comes, this is where some plans may come in handy. I know this point has been made several times before but I feel it's worth repeating with the hope of getting action!
This post is because I thought there was a hint of sarcasm in your reply, it's hard to judge sometimes with 'E-mail' messages, if I am wrong you have my profound appologies for making an issue of it.
This in no way will stop me reading all your posts which I have found very invaluable, please carry on.
Cheers,
Jeff
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#7 Posted : 25 November 2010 22:26:33

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Jeff, erm, I'm stunned mate, in fact I'm gutted you even felt my post was taken the wrong way, if it came across that way I put my hands up, I'm sorry you feel it sounded sarcastic. I dont know what to say.

Please dont judge me in any other way than a mate, sorry but I feel shocked about your reply.

I thought my post was answering your question, how can I put it...sorry I upset you Jeff, really I am.

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I would of though if you cut a 12mm square, then line it with 1.5, thus giving you 9mm, then your hatch would be the 9mm?


sorry, I was writing this as I would be talking to you, sort of answering your question with a question.

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I also doubt if family or friends will be viewing your ship with a tape measure

this was something a fellow builder told me some years ago, what it means is what we (the modeller could spent hours getting it right, that family and friends may not even notice it, be half a mil or 1 mil)

Once again Jeff, this was not meant to be sarcastic and please dont see me in any bad light, I'd hate that and would feel very uncomfortable if you felt that way.

Unfortunately what we write on forums like this can sometimes come across in a very different light to the reader, no offence was meant Jeff.
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#8 Posted : 26 November 2010 01:15:29

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My mistake Colin, I've PM'd you to explain, after I wrote the post I re-read yours and thought I'd made a 'bo,bo', you are actually one of my favourite reads on here and I should have known better! All the best and keep up the good work.
Jeff
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glad you settled it,I to have been misread on two occations,and have been made to suffer for it,what sometimes is meant for comedy is taken for sarcasm.the written word is powerful but,it has to written very carefully,we on here should realise this and not be so touchy,now on a more cheerful note, good morning all .Love
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karl1113 wrote:
glad you settled it,I to have been misread on two occations,and have been made to suffer for it,what sometimes is meant for comedy is taken for sarcasm.the written word is powerful but,it has to written very carefully,we on here should realise this and not be so touchy,now on a more cheerful note, good morning all .Love

Whats good about it?Cursing lol...sorry couldn't resist...must be the £500 I just shelled out to get my lads car through the mot....ouch that hurt...BIG TIME!!!!
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#11 Posted : 26 November 2010 21:01:26

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karl1113 wrote:
glad you settled it,I to have been misread on two occations,and have been made to suffer for it,what sometimes is meant for comedy is taken for sarcasm.the written word is powerful but,it has to written very carefully,we on here should realise this and not be so touchy,now on a more cheerful note, good morning all .Love

Whats good about it?Cursing lol...sorry couldn't resist...must be the £500 I just shelled out to get my lads car through the mot....ouch that hurt...BIG TIME!!!!

hope this does'nt hurt too much,just had a letter from the taxman, sat down in not a very good mood,started to read, "on other page to find out how much underpaid/overpaid the inland revenue,carefully turned to other page". 395.00 overpaid,"what"passed the bad news to wife to check,"your getting £395.00 back"!!!
oooooooooo I said,can I buy the black pearl kit now, "NO" was the reply,
.............................................silence,"I ordered it for you last week".......................more silence. yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and been walking round all day with a big smile. sorry dontshootme.
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#12 Posted : 26 November 2010 21:06:09

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nice one karl i have decided on the pearl too..xmas pressie from the missus
cheers benny
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Great result Karl, but think what could of been, wouldn't mind one of those myself about now.

Good on you.

hey fellas...the beers are on Karl Flapper
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toooooo lateeeeeeeeee me p*ssssssssssssssssssssed already nite niteeeeeeee.BigGrin
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#15 Posted : 27 November 2010 00:37:45

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I got one of those! only the 'Tax Man' must be building the Amerigo Verspuci as he want's £700 off me, no the wonder I'm using scraps to build other thing's!!!
Still, ya gotta laff Crying Crying Crying
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#16 Posted : 27 November 2010 20:01:51

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Hi Guys up to issue 27 now so haven't started planking tho as I've built Hatchette "Victory" "Titanic" and just finished (almost) "Bismarck" the planking doesn't frighten me, however... has anyone decided to do the cutaway and then plank it so the planking can be removed for a little bit of show? I am going to have a bash so let's know if anyone else is. Sundance
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