Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In | Register

Building An Open Interior (No Top) - Can the Infrastructure Support This? Options
svandensen
#1 Posted : 19 November 2016 00:39:41

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered

Joined: 19/11/2016
Posts: 3
Points: 9
Location: San Diego, CA
Hi all! Looking for a bit of feedback from folks that have completed (or have nearly completed) this beautiful model.

I received a subscription for my bday from my husband, and after finishing my recent Jupiter II build (Moebius), I have found a love for detailing interiors. Plus I'm a wee bit OCD... which is probably why I like dealing with all the itty-bitty elements so much. ;-)

...so, was wondering if the infrastructure for this model could hold up to "leaving the top off" for me to scratch-build a complete interior? We'd probably place her in a display case then (so there would be minimal moves of the build). I'm assuming there are brackets that are visible, but assume I can blend those into walls, etc...

Any feedback/thoughts from you experts out there? Or is this a nuts idea? BigGrin :-) I still have a Fine Molds Falcon I haven't built/painted yet, so we were thinking of putting them side-by-side in a case (and then use the "lid" of the ship as a wall display somewhere else in the house).

Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may have!

R,
Sandy
davetwin
#2 Posted : 19 November 2016 13:30:19

Rank: Super-Elite
Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsOutstanding Build: An award for an outstanding buildBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 27/01/2014
Posts: 5,060
Points: 14,980
Welcome to the Forum Sandy.

The Millennium Falcon build is a great build and has a lot of different customisation possibilities.

I really love the idea of a detailled interior and think it would look amazing when complete, however I would have to very strongly advice against it as with the top off it would cause permanent damage over time.

The frame work is designed so that it works in partnership with the top whereby when the top is put on everything is pulled together and held securely.

As an example the mandibles themselves weigh a considerable amount and when attaching them you are advised to use the supplied jig to support the weight. If you take the jigs away while the top is off the mandibles start to droop under their own weight, whereas when the top is attached the weight of the top counter acts the droop and balances everything out. Over time permanent damage would be done.

For a top off idea to work there would need to be some serious reworking of the frame work to strengthen it up, I wouldn't know where to start to achieve that.
Markwarren
#3 Posted : 19 November 2016 17:07:24
Rank: Administration

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionOutstanding Build: An award for an outstanding buildBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered, Administrators, Global Forum Support, Moderator, Forum Support Team, Official Builds

Joined: 04/01/2016
Posts: 6,734
Points: 20,519
Location: Northamptonshire, England
Welcome to the forum Sandy

As Dave has stressed in the previous post, without the top piece fitted, parts will be under stress and may buckle the frame over time. I myself have attached the top frame on temporarily, but I am still using the support to hold it in place. Because of the sheer weight of the model, until the bottom, side and top sections are bolted together, you may damage some parts.

I think the idea of detailing the interior is a great idea, but to reiterate what Dave said, some work around will be needed to strengthen the framework as the model was not designed with that in mind.
Mark

Regards
Markwarren
(Mark) Admin
svandensen
#4 Posted : 19 November 2016 22:04:18

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered

Joined: 19/11/2016
Posts: 3
Points: 9
Location: San Diego, CA
Dave, Mark,
Thank you so much for your replies and your advice! Having only the first 5 months delivered thus far, I was concerned this would end up being the issue (not knowing how the infrastructure ends up).

Hmm. I'm wondering if I can do cutouts at key areas across the top hull, perhaps adding additional bracing along the plastic that remains to help ensure there's adequate support? That would at least give "peeks" into every room/area of the ship (beyond the already removable areas - looks like they're using magnets for a few rooms?), particularly the engines.

Maybe that's a compromise scenario. What do you (or any other readers <s>) think?

Thank you again for taking the time to answer, that was really nice of you! Have a great weekend!

R,
Sandy
davetwin
#5 Posted : 20 November 2016 07:40:23

Rank: Super-Elite
Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsOutstanding Build: An award for an outstanding buildBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 27/01/2014
Posts: 5,060
Points: 14,980
You're welcome Sandy

Cut outs do sound like it would be a good compromise, you'd have to study the current framework to try and work out where you'd need the extra bracing, not something that I could give any help with I'm afraid as that's beyond my abilities so would be at your own risk. However if you can pull it off it would certainly be unique and add that extra wow factor that no one else has done Cool

You are correct that the current cut away parts use magnets on the hull panels.
Corellian Hyperdrive
#6 Posted : 12 January 2017 18:21:44

Rank: Beginner Level 2


Groups: Registered

Joined: 10/01/2017
Posts: 16
Points: 38
Location: U.S.A.
Another option could be simply replacing parts of the upper hull plating with thin Plexiglass or Lexan. The clear panels could be screwed into the existing metal framework in lieu of the hull plating, resulting in no loss of structural support. The effect would be pretty impressive as it would also show off portions of the Falcon's metal skeleton which is a work of art in itself.
darbyvet
#7 Posted : 12 January 2017 19:12:04

Rank: Super-Elite
Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 17/12/2013
Posts: 3,982
Points: 11,974
Location: NY, USA
Hi Corellian Hyperdrive,
welcome to the forum.I am forum support for USA so let me know if I can help in any way. I tihnk it would be very difficult to use lexan or plexiglass because you would need to have a compound shape on some parts and this is very challenging to due with plexiglass and lexan.

Carl

Corellian Hyperdrive
#8 Posted : 12 January 2017 20:00:59

Rank: Beginner Level 2


Groups: Registered

Joined: 10/01/2017
Posts: 16
Points: 38
Location: U.S.A.
The OP mentioned scratch building the interior so I would assume they have at least a passing knowledge of cutting & manipulating plastic. If it isn't a challenge, it isn't worth doing. (I think I read that in a fortune cookie once).BigGrin
svandensen
#9 Posted : 14 January 2017 21:44:39

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered

Joined: 19/11/2016
Posts: 3
Points: 9
Location: San Diego, CA
Hi Corellian and Hyperdrive! :-) I've become pretty enamored with the cutout idea using acrylic (though ugh, it scratches so easily) or plexiglass. While I'm not an expert, I have worked with at least acrylic enough to be comfortable it may work if placed properly (supported by judiciously-applied lighting in the interior).

I'm still missing one of the earlier shipments (on back order as of November - I should probably ask my hubby to follow up on that), otherwise, am about halfway through receipt of my parts. Am looking forward to the challenge (and the terror of mucking up this beautiful model, lol)!

Does Model Space sell one-shot replacement issues (in case I do mess up a key part)? I'm assuming I'd have to rebuy an issue vice an individual piece, as they're packaged together frequently. Knowing that is a backup plan would make this more of a relaxing vs. stressful experience. Wink

And again, thank you, to you great folks and all your advice!!!
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2009, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.110 seconds.
DeAgostini