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Hi all!
So far little has been said on painting, so I would be interested to know when this will start. I have just looked at Tomick's latest post and it is moving on apace. Galleries and wales fitted,and not a daub of paint in sight - painting looks intricate. Is there any good reason why the gallery parts were not painted prior to fitting? - also do D.A. propose to offer materials for sheathing the lower hull - or are we being left to our own devices? I want to complete the lower hull before moving on to the gallery and other parts.
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Painting information is being provded in the magazine at the apropriate points in the build.
From what I understand, a copper sheathing pack (of the correct scale) will be made available to purchase via the online shop, no info yet as to cost or when.
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Update -
Here's the low down - For those not wanting to undertake the laborious task of copper tiling, at around issue 57 copper paint will be supplied as part of the series, which will be enough to coat the hull twice.
For those wanting to take on the task of copper tiling, at the same time, a copper tiling pack will be made available via the online shop, no info on price as yet.
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Thanks for the update tomick. I have been following your build with interest,and as you appear to be building to the mags instructions I am guessing that your build will show the lower hull in paint form. For those considering tiles a note of caution.
I have done a back of a fag packet calculation and have come up with the following. To date we have received 300 x300mm hull planks. Miskin models do packs of 100 tiles @ £2.00 per 100 tiles.They are made of copper foil with an adhesive backing and measure 5.5 mm 15 mm x0.03mm thick,so to cover the lower hull using this method would cost a "ball park" £120.00.
A better option may be to consider using copper foil 6mm tape - in the U.S. it costs$10 per roll and a pounce wheel £8.38 to simulate rivets. Cost would be less than £25.00 unfortunately I have been unable to source the said tape. I realise that these methods will no go down well with the purists as the scale would be wrong, but the pictures on you tube look impressive!
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I'm hoping to copper using the available tile pack, the biggest problem being is that its far from being a quick process, and would be an ongoing addition rather than being completed in a single diary build.
I don't see the point of buying out of scale copper tiles elsewhere when the correct scale copper tiles will be on sale via the online DeAgostini shop.
Correct, copper tape is a cheaper alternative, though it needs care in its application, and if for instance the model is stood close to a heat source such as a radiator or sun shining thru a window, the tape can drop away or start to sag.
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Was the Victory's hull originally plated with copper?
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One of the bigest problems with wooden hulled ships was the deterioration of the wood due to marine growths and the ship worm sometimes known as Toredo worms. The first experiments in protecting the bottom of ships with copper plating were carried out in the early 18th Century but it was soon discovered that the situation was made worse by adverse electrolytic reactions between the copper fastenings and the iron bolts used in the construction of the ships. The solution was to replace the iron bolts with copper alloy bolts. The Royal Navy started a programme to entirely copper their ships and replace the iron bolts in the 1780's. HMS Victory was one of the first 48 ships to be coppered in 1780 as part of one of her refits.
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And therefore was not coppered upon launch in 1765 - 1780
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