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Xebek101
#1 Posted : 12 November 2016 18:27:20

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Hi there
I am at present building a scratchbuilt Xebek of length 40 inches overall. The hull is of oak planking, over plywood ribs, and the hull fittings are of mahogany. The build is about 75 % complete, and I am searching for 20 off by 3 sheave blocks to purchase, to complete the rigging. I am new to these forums, and wonder if this is the place to ask for help. If necessary, I will make them myselfConfused Crying , but would prefer not to. Best regards Martin
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#2 Posted : 12 November 2016 22:49:38

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Hi Xebek101 and welcome to the forumBigGrin
You are correct in thinking that this is the place to ask for help as there are a lot of experienced ship builders on here.

Unfortunately I'm not one of them but you could try the link below for what you need.

http://www.cornwallmodel...amp;ACTION=quick+search

Hope that helps.

Al
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#3 Posted : 12 November 2016 23:55:18

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Welcome to the forum Martin, you may be new to forums but you've certainly joined the right one. Lots of helpful builders on here to assist and guide when needed.... Would be great to see how your build is progressing in the form of some pics, hope you'll post some.....

Hope you enjoy your time with us...Cool Cool Cool

Regards

Alan
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#4 Posted : 12 November 2016 23:59:39

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Welcome to the forum Martin. There are some superb modelers here who could scratch build an entire fleet out of scraps of wood, so I am sure you will have all the help you need. Good luck with your build, looking forward to seeing your progress.BigGrin
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#5 Posted : 13 November 2016 11:11:18

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Thank you very much for the replies, Al, Alan and the support team ! Laugh My humble and faltering enquiry has borne rich rewards indeed. The ref to Cornwall model boats has been an eye opener, and they will certainly hear from me....thank you indeed.
I will still figure out how to post photo`s on this site, so far I have a photo on Facebook (under Martin Hartmann)if you wish to look there.
Unfortunately my boat is not true scale, but "grewed and grewed" from the composite views on Pinterest. The true length is not 40 inches exactly, but is in the region of 36 inches. At the time, I did not know where to get plans, and a single sheet from the "Chapman Xebec" sufficed, blown up about 2.5 times. On building the hull, my own mods were made, ie, raised foredeck instead of a sunken one, and the afterdeck is to my own design, (mainly through not knowing how to build it as shown, heh heh )
The photo indicates the build progress to date. No carving has been done, the bowsprit is not completed, the foremast is too thin, and all the deck fittings, and rigging points, plus rigging and sails, have to be made and fitted.
The mods were done from my own experience of single handed blue water cruising in my own 24 foot boat.
ps. I am a happily married man, in my 70`s, and retired. I am adding this because I do not know how to get back into my profile to do this properly Blushing
Unfortunately , my nemesis is the computer. Confused When I was still working, I was fortunate enough to have girls to do this for me, and never learned it`s imtricacies myself ! Crying

Best regards
Martin
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#6 Posted : 13 November 2016 11:19:47

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Hi Martin, good to hear from you again and the info on your build all sounds very interesting.... For posting of photo's on your thread you may find this link of use to you...

http://forum.model-space....aspx?g=posts&t=244

To edit your profile simply click on the 'My Profile' option near the top of the screen.

Hope you find this useful..

Regard

Alan
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#7 Posted : 13 November 2016 12:24:03

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Welcome Xebec,
There are many builders on here only willing to help in any way for you. Don't be afraid to ask for help.
Looking forward to seeing your build pics.
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#8 Posted : 13 November 2016 13:42:55

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#9 Posted : 13 November 2016 17:30:28

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Sorry.....loading images does not work....have resized it to low resolution, (635 KB) but it still kicks me out. I will post them on Facebook....look for Martin Hartmann. Regards Martin
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#10 Posted : 03 December 2016 17:15:32

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Xebec plans:

Chébec de 24 canons (24-gun xebec).

Plan: one sheet, scale 1/75;
Publisher: AAMM France.
Available in English.

and the must

Chébec le Requin (The Shark).

Monograph by Jean Boudriot.

Set of 22 sheets, frames, fittings, rigging at scale 1/48.
Publisher: ANCRE France.
Available in English.
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#11 Posted : 03 December 2016 18:22:43

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BigGrin Looking forward to seeing your pictures Martin very unusual ship Cool

Rgd Martyn
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#12 Posted : 03 December 2016 18:39:08

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Many thanks for the heads up on the plans, Alain. It is much appreciated !However, I have had a stroke, so building to plans is a chore ! I have completely lost the mathematical side of my brain, so working out the scale, and doing the necessary arithmetic is beyond me . I much prefer a blown up diagram, showing in general how it is done, and I will happily continue on my way. I am quite capable of sawing out the timber, and calculate the necessary dimensions without recourse to a ruler, using scraps of timber to make marks on. This also applies to kits of parts, as I find these limiting and frustrating to work with. If you make a "Box up" of it, this is the end, as each part is made to fit the next. I happily fossick around the lumber yards, carrying off scraps of timber of no use to anyone, except for crazies like me ! A cast off chairleg yields the finest mahogany yet, beautifully seasoned, if you are willing to cut the outer, weather damaged parts off. Likewise for oak, and Blackwood, etc etc. The Xebek is made entirely from timbers sourced like this. Please can you go to Facebook, and look under Martin B J Hartmann, and give me your opinion on my work so far. I will try once again to post on this site, but do not hold out much hope.
Regards
Martin
I could not load the file again, after numerous tries.. This is a standard JPG file,and is accepted by Facebook, EPHOTOZINE (look for fotobee) and other sites. It is purely a technical matter, which I am probably doing wrongly somewhere. Please, can somebody help, as I find this site most informative and helpful, but people want to see what I have done, and I would like to show them. I have already tried the suggestions given here, but no luck. I find that building these models in a vacuum, is difficult to do properly, and I cannot wait for critique and suggestions !
Regards
Martin
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Xebek101
#13 Posted : 03 December 2016 19:37:15

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Hi Martin and Alain
The upload works to the point where it says "Waiting for DeAgostini Modelspace " in the bottom left of my screen. After waiting for a few moments, I get the reply that the file was deleted from the post (See Previous post) This has happened 4 times in a row. Any help would be greatly appreciated !
ps The model has advanced quite a bit from this, and now has the mast tabernacles, Blackwood) the companionways from the main to the raised decking, plus other bits and bobs. A start has been made on the carvings, (In Mauritian Rosewood and Blackwood). All the mast shroud hold downs have been made, out of Blackwood, with brass pins driven through, to belay the rope tails. The foredeck rail cappings have been made from Blackwood sawn and made from two single pieces, (Port and Starboard), which has been quite a mission as they change dimensions in 3D
I must start rigging the masts, to see where the yard Parrals sit, so as not to foul anything else. This is to get an idea of the elevation of the Lateen yards, so as to be able to get an idea of the sail shape and how to cut them. Wish me luck !!

Regards
Martin

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#14 Posted : 03 December 2016 22:06:54

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Have resized to 660 pixels wide.

Lets see if that works.

There`s your issue. Just resize pics to the above.

Regards
delboy271155
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#15 Posted : 03 December 2016 22:07:55

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Try to upload your images with Hosting Pics.

Unfortunately my IP is located in France, so the text is automatically in French and I can't manage getting the English uploading instructions.Cursing

It's easy:

First window

1) Select your file and image

2) Resize the image 640 x 480

3) Click on "Upload now"

Second window

4) Select "forum link 1" and copy the URL

5) Paste it in "post a replay" on DeA forum

6) Click on "preview" to browse your pic

and post it.


And now, the parrels.

MIZZEN AND MAIN MAST



Parrel-trucks

main mast: 4 rows
mizzen: 1 row. No parrel-ribs.

FORE MAST



Parrel-trucks: 3 rows.

PARRELS: detail of parrel-trucks and ribs.



Source:

Jean Boudriot, monograph of xebec Le Requin.
Xebek101
#16 Posted : 31 December 2016 13:21:58

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Hi Alain
Many thanks for replying to me. I have been away for a little while, and have not been as busy as I would like. I have been to your sites, and can only gape in admiration ! WELL DONE !! I have just resized my latest photo of the Chebeque to 640 pixels as suggested, and hope that this will be accepted. Am about to give it a try....

ps HAVE A VERY, VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON, AND A GOOD, PROSPEROUS, AND, ABOVE ALL, A HEALTHY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND YOUR OWN!

Best regards
Martin
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#17 Posted : 31 December 2016 13:37:29

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Hi Derek and Alain
Derek and Alain.
BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin
Many many thanks with your help in uploading pictures !I have finally done it !!! Unfortunately I uploaded twice in error, but hopefully this should stop. Blushing

To all the people at DeAgostini, and all the readers, I wish you all a very happy holiday season, and a very, very HAPPY NEW YEAR !!

Best regards
Martin
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#18 Posted : 31 December 2016 13:41:12

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BigGrin Now that looks superb and a very unusual subject Cool very nicely done Love

Rgd Martyn

And a very happy new year
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#19 Posted : 31 December 2016 13:44:46

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That looks amazing, very nice indeed!Drool BigGrin
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#20 Posted : 25 January 2017 13:58:59

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Fantastic build. very well done. Ian Cool BigGrin
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