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Gandale
#1 Posted : 12 February 2017 23:37:09

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This build finally gets underway and was first reviewed here:

http://forum.model-space...spx?g=posts&t=22447

As mentioned in the review this kit is not for the beginner to wooden ship building. She is primarily a double skinned build with both the inner and outer sides of the hull being completely visible. The framework is simply that, framework only to provide overall shape with the first layer of planking being glued by the tip of the planks at the bow and on the transom, the planks are not glued to any of the other frames at all. Precision is going to be required with the careful application of glue on the plank edges, any excess glue will leave glue marks visible..Cool Cool.. So lets see how we get on.

The start of the build was to remove the keel, frame support and all the frames from the frets, clean the slots of all the burnt ash. None of the frames etc are numbered so next thing was to identify each frame and number them accordingly from the 1 to 1 plans and at the same time transfer key marking onto the parts.... Cool Cool

Next it was onto initial fairing. The instructions call for only the forward two frames to be faired but on test assembly it became apparent a couple of other frames needed slight fairing too, especially if I wanted the planks to sit correctly and follow the shape as closely as possible.Cool Cool ..

More to follow....

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#2 Posted : 13 February 2017 00:37:55

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Hi Alan,BigGrin

Looking forward to this one.

Those parts do look like they are made of quality materials.Cool


Have fun, waiting next update.

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#3 Posted : 13 February 2017 14:48:15

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Good start Alan Cool look forward to seeing more of this.

Al
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#4 Posted : 13 February 2017 15:18:15

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This will be an interesting build to watch!
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#5 Posted : 13 February 2017 15:29:54

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Great start AlanBigGrin will be following with interestCool regards PhilCool
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#6 Posted : 13 February 2017 19:09:48

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BigGrin Nice start AlanCool
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#7 Posted : 13 February 2017 22:16:08

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Thanks to everyone for looking in and for the comments made, appreciate.....Cool Cool .. Done a little more this evening and will be posting up a little later....Cool Cool

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Alan
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#8 Posted : 13 February 2017 22:46:22

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Moving on with the build. Next item was to take the two bow formers and where the line was drawn (from the plans), I sawed almost all the way through. The bottom part of the former is the only part that is glued to the keel, the top part will be removed when the planking is completed. This also means I cannot glue the planks to this former until I get below the cut line, its a former only. The only part of the planks that can be glued to the keel is the very end, just the thickness of the plank. This will no doubt add to the challenge of this build....Blink Blink Blink

With all the frames prepared I then moved onto to pinning the frames onto the frame support. These are pinned only, no glue applied as I have to be able to remove the frame support complete with all the frames. Cool Cool .. Last frame to attach was the transom, happy to say this was glued into place and is the only other frame the planks will be glued to...Cool Cool .. Once the glue was dry the next thing to do was to test fit the frame assembly into place to make sure everything fitted correctly... So far so good....Cool Cool

More soon...

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#9 Posted : 13 February 2017 23:23:35

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Nice start Alan, it sounds a slightly more complicated build than it first appeared.
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Nice model Alan. Very tricky build doing the hull in this way. Look forward to your progress.

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#11 Posted : 14 February 2017 06:44:57

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Intresting build the hull sounds rather challanging, watching with intrest

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#12 Posted : 16 February 2017 23:42:42

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Onto the next update but first a big thank you to all that looked in and commented, appreciated....Cool Cool

Now that I was happy with the test fit it was time to start putting things together... I decided to apply a little PVA to the lower slots on the frames and attach to the keel, this I did to help ensure the frames don't move during the planking phase... With the removal of the frame support I can access the lower part of the frames and apply a little hot water with a brush so the frames can be removed, at least that's the plan... Cool Cool .. Cool Cool I then gave some thought as to whether to use a build jig or not. Experience in building ships has shown me how easy it is to apply twists or warps to the keel during the early stages of planking so with that in mind into a build jig it went.....Cool Cool

With everything secure my attention turned to how best to start planking bearing in mind glue is only applied to the transom and the tip of the planks at the bow. Thought about using double sided tape but didn't think it would hold the planks securely enough. Still applied double sided tape to the frame edges, it will help hold the planks but more importantly it will prevent accidental gluing of the planks to the frames...Cool Cool Attention turned to how to keep the planks in position at the bow, at least until the glue dried and ended up making up two small tools from spare planking, gluing strips together and profiled the ends to match the bow supports. A trusty G clamp added the final touch and I now think I have that problem resolved...Cool Cool

Studied the plans for a while and noticed the capping almost covers the first two planking rows. That means I can quite happily pin the first two rows to the frames which will give me a good start and something solid to work from plus the pin holes will not be seen from inside or out. First plank has now been glued and pinned and this will now be left overnight to see if everything holds especially when the G clamp is removed. If successful then will apply the first plank to the other side and move on from there.....Cool Cool

More soon...

Regards

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Taking shape fast and looks quite a size Cool
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#14 Posted : 17 February 2017 00:03:07

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Tomick wrote:
Taking shape fast and looks quite a size Cool


She's 620mm in length so bigger than you would think....Cool Cool .. I think the first layer of planking will be the most time consuming part of the build and the part where a lot of care will have to be taken....Cool Cool

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Alan
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#15 Posted : 17 February 2017 02:47:51

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Great work so far Alan Cool looks a difficult kit to build and no small thing.

Al
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#16 Posted : 17 February 2017 09:17:32

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BigGrin It looks a complex build Alan Cool looking forward to seeing the next update Cool

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Nice work so far Alan. She's certainly bigger than I thought she would be.
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#18 Posted : 17 February 2017 10:40:00

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An interesting and intricate build you have there Alan. I will be following your build and look forward to your posts.

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#19 Posted : 19 February 2017 00:28:06

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Thanks to everyone who looked in and for your comments, appreciated....Cool Cool Cool

So we progress a little further. Pleased to say it would appear the plan is working, the planks are being held fast at the bow. Having crossed the first hurdle I then moved onto applying the first two rows of planks. This involved getting the profile correct for each plank and this I did with the use of steam from a kettle, took a while but think it was worth it. These planks are pinned to the frames and glued together by their edges ensuring no glue appeared on the inside of the hull. The pins will remain in place and only removed when the hull has it's first covering...Cool Cool Cool This is how she will sit overnight to let the glue cure then I'll apply the next row....Cool Cool

Happy building...

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Alan
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#20 Posted : 19 February 2017 01:06:03

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Awesome Alan. Nice update and info on your progress. I will be watching your progress carefully as this is something I would love to attempt. I don't think my skills are three yet but will attempt one for sure.
Thanks for sharing.

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