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Hi Just received one of the above as part of a kit. Has anyone used one of these and if so do you rate them? Didn't know if i would be better off buying the electric type.Here's the link to what i mean.
http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/mantua-plankbender.html
thanks
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That is not an electric one you have linked too but a manual one. You twist the planks through the knurled steps. I never got on with it as planks too dry snap. The difference is the mantua twisty one in your picture does not cut into the plank were as the scissor type does slit one side of the plank. My choice is a pair of planking pliers by expo as they fit my hand a lot easier. This is what i find easier to use - plenty of various stockists by the way this is just an example http://www.pagesoftools.co.uk/precision-plank-cutting-bending-box-jointed-pliers-140mm-281-p.asp Happy Modelling
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Honestly there are about as many ways to bend and shape a plank as there are folks making ship models. in the end do whatever works for you.
look at the model ship world web site and you will find several tutorials and such on the different ways folks do it.
http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-framing-and-planking-articles.php
most of the time i use a jar lid or a section of pvc pipe as a jig and use 3 to 6 small clamps / clips to hold the wood and a hair dryer as a heat source.
heat will help wood bend, watter will make wood swell and when it dries it will shrink. so of you use steam or hot water soaking then clamp the wood and let it dry for a day or two before you use it. that will make it fit tighter and you will have less gaps to fill later.
also look at the info on shaping the plank before you bend it.
that can help the hull have less stealers and such.
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Personally I hate planking pliers. I just do not like the cuts in the back. I know they won't be visible in the end but I know they're there and its ugly from the inside. A lot of people just go with some thick nails stuck into a wood block to anchor the plank which seems to do a great job and can easily be adjusted to any needed angle by just repositioning nails. If the nails are long enough you also can do several planks at the same time and give them the exact same curve. That said, I prefer my electric plank bender. Its just more fun.
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Myself I use a steamer, just a cheep veg steamer from a high street shop. It's worked great on both my bounty and Titanic. My Favourite Building:- 1919 https://forum.model-space.co.uk/default.aspx?g=posts&m=339517&#post339517 -
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This electric plank bender is an excellent tool for bending planks, you can even apply twists to the planks when needed and very reasonably priced too....
http://www.model-space.com/gb/electric-plank-bender.html
Regards
Alan
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birdaj2 wrote:That is not an electric one you have linked too but a manual one. You twist the planks through the knurled steps.
I never got on with it as planks too dry snap.
The difference is the mantua twisty one in your picture does not cut into the plank were as the scissor type does slit one side of the plank.
My choice is a pair of planking pliers by expo as they fit my hand a lot easier.
This is what i find easier to use - plenty of various stockists by the way this is just an example
http://www.pagesoftools.co.uk/precision-plank-cutting-bending-box-jointed-pliers-140mm-281-p.asp Hi sorry think you misunderstood. The link is to the one I received. Just wanted to know if it is any good, or should I buy an electric one.
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CaptnBirdseye wrote:birdaj2 wrote:That is not an electric one you have linked too but a manual one. You twist the planks through the knurled steps.
I never got on with it as planks too dry snap.
The difference is the mantua twisty one in your picture does not cut into the plank were as the scissor type does slit one side of the plank.
My choice is a pair of planking pliers by expo as they fit my hand a lot easier.
This is what i find easier to use - plenty of various stockists by the way this is just an example
http://www.pagesoftools.co.uk/precision-plank-cutting-bending-box-jointed-pliers-140mm-281-p.asp Hi sorry think you misunderstood. The link is to the one I received. Just wanted to know if it is any good, or should I buy an electric one. Ah i see - sorry. Well to be honest i never got on with this one as you pass the wood through rollers and unless the wood is very flexible (soaking in water) you will find may of the planks snap. Its down to the individual though as you will have seen from the many replies. If i do use a tool its that expo one but to be honest all of my recent part builds have just seen the planks soaked, pinned to the hull, allowed to dry (to allow for shrinkage when they dry out) and then glued in place. I cannot really knock any of the tools greatly and its down to the user. Give the mantua one a try as you may get on with it very well. Happy Modelling
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I have one of these they are great for forming hull planking bends at the bow, but they do leave a mark on the inside so limited for other tasks. I personally would not go to the expense of an electric plank bender. they are slow to form your bend. the kettle method is faster and free. Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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jase wrote:I have one of these they are great for forming hull planking bends at the bow, but they do leave a mark on the inside so limited for other tasks.
I personally would not go to the expense of an electric plank bender. they are slow to form your bend. the kettle method is faster and free. there is a link to my how to video on that subject below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQQNlNPw1J8
Jase
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I have on of these and found the best way to use it is to fill a spagetti storage jar with water and soak the wood for at least half an hour before using the bender. With practice you can get some good bends but you will get marks from the ridges on the cylinders so try to just pass the wood through one way only so the marks stay on the inside Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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The way I do it depends on the wood. Hard wood needs longer in the water. I used hot tap water in a water bottle(spring). I soak for 30 seconds then use the hot bender the same as the one Alan linked to in the ModelSpace shop. Using the shaped wood provided I get any curve or twist very easily also the wood is virtually dry when done. Chris On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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