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garrydb7
#1 Posted : 14 May 2017 12:09:36

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I like to think I have time and patience, and built successfully a number of models, but these wire wheels have beaten me!

Part 5 being the outer wheel spokes are a nightmare. I have spent at least two hours this morning, without any success in even getting two spokes in and getting to stay put. And yes there is making tape.

Of course, the nightmare is, there is another 4 wheels of these to go!!

I am giving up, and will cancel the sub on Monday morning.
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#2 Posted : 14 May 2017 12:21:16

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Hi,

I had a 'battle' with the B spokes myself, what I did was to use glue instead of tape to hold the A spokes in place which allowed me to push the B spokes though with more force, then I used some tweezers to hook them into place, being a tight fit there was no need to use glue on these.

I know it's annoying but don't give up this is such a beautiful build it would be a shame if you cancelled.

May.
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#3 Posted : 14 May 2017 12:26:20

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Hi Garrydb7

I will pm you my own ideas and you can see whether they're any help. Having been through the same pain myself I know how you feel.

Optionally there is a thread where a user has kindly offered to help people by building their wheels for them and there are various other threads that offer ideas and techniques, though one appears to have been deleted.

Kind regards, Curly
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garrydb7 wrote:
I like to think I have time and patience, and built successfully a number of models, but these wire wheels have beaten me!

Part 5 being the outer wheel spokes are a nightmare. I have spent at least two hours this morning, without any success in even getting two spokes in and getting to stay put. And yes there is making tape.

Of course, the nightmare is, there is another 4 wheels of these to go!!

I am giving up, and will cancel the sub on Monday morning.


Welcome to the forum, sorry to hear that your having a problem with your wheel,have you had a look at the tutorial below as it may help.

http://forum.model-space...spx?g=posts&t=23122

Failing that if you put a couple of pics up so we can see where the problem may lie then we can help get it sorted.

Al
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#5 Posted : 14 May 2017 17:24:22

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Not another thread on this subject.....Cursing

While I'm sorry you're having problems there are already plenty of posts about this. And help available if you need it. Some builders have had problems, others haven't. Either way, I really think another thread on the wheels is unnecessary. Bored
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#6 Posted : 14 May 2017 18:19:00

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I am sorry that in view of some that I have started "another thread" on this subject.

I am very new to this forum (the clue is in the red marker on the left) and just finding my way around, and all I could see, on joining, was one thread on this, and a very generous offer by Mustang (i think it was) to build the wheels.

However, I received a very helpful PM from someone and should guide me forward.

I won't post again in any case. It seems I bore people
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#7 Posted : 14 May 2017 19:23:51

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garrydb7 wrote:
I am sorry that in view of some that I have started "another thread" on this subject.

I am very new to this forum (the clue is in the red marker on the left) and just finding my way around, and all I could see, on joining, was one thread on this, and a very generous offer by Mustang (i think it was) to build the wheels.

However, I received a very helpful PM from someone and should guide me forward.

I won't post again in any case. It seems I bore people


Glad your getting sorted, feel free to post as that is what the forum is for, everyone on here has something to offer as we all share the same hobby.
Look forward to hopefully seeing your build on here.

Al
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I built my wheel twice because I wanted to try something with issue 5.

First I built it the way the instructions said to do, bag A then bag B then bag A again and so on and so on..



On the second try I changed my way of adding the spokes.

As spoke B's are higher on the hub and look the same length then they need more pressure to secure them, which means when adding these after spoke A spoke A may pop out.

So I did all spoke B's first, this gave the hub the final height, which meant that when adding all of the spoke from bag A there was less stress on the spokes and they more or less just fell into place.

But doing it this way you will have to thread the spoke a little bit more, but I found it made it a lot easier to fit them.
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I also did mine in a similar way to Mustang, focussing on the compass points with spoke b first then completing the corresponding spoke a for each point before moving on.

I can't find the thread with the three spoke crossover images but this is also something garry should check.
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garrydb7 wrote:
I am sorry that in view of some that I have started "another thread" on this subject.

I am very new to this forum (the clue is in the red marker on the left) and just finding my way around, and all I could see, on joining, was one thread on this, and a very generous offer by Mustang (i think it was) to build the wheels.

However, I received a very helpful PM from someone and should guide me forward.

I won't post again in any case. It seems I bore people


Garry

please do not be put off from posting as you will get much support from many of the members on here and should not feel like your contributions are not valued.

I really do hope you get your wheel issue sorted out and maybe you would consider posting up your results as I am sure there will be many people on here that would be more than interested in seeing how you are getting on with your build.

Best wishes with your build.
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mattsr wrote:
Not another thread on this subject.....Cursing

While I'm sorry you're having problems there are already plenty of posts about this. And help available if you need it. Some builders have had problems, others haven't. Either way, I really think another thread on the wheels is unnecessary. Bored


If the thread doesn't interest you then you don't have to follow or read it, simply ignore it and move on.. Cool Cool

Regards

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garrydb7 wrote:
I am sorry that in view of some that I have started "another thread" on this subject.

I am very new to this forum (the clue is in the red marker on the left) and just finding my way around, and all I could see, on joining, was one thread on this, and a very generous offer by Mustang (i think it was) to build the wheels.

However, I received a very helpful PM from someone and should guide me forward.

I won't post again in any case. It seems I bore people



Welcome to the forum Garry, you have come to the right place for guidance and assistance and am sure you'll get the help to resolve your issue....Cool Cool ..

Regards

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mattsr wrote:
Not another thread on this subject.....Cursing

While I'm sorry you're having problems there are already plenty of posts about this. And help available if you need it. Some builders have had problems, others haven't. Either way, I really think another thread on the wheels is unnecessary. Bored


Some people forget that no more than two weeks ago they were thanking another member for their help on the same issue.

You keep asking your questions and as said before someone will come to your aid.

Happy Building and looking forward to seeing some of your efforts on the forum. Cool Cool Cool Cool

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garrydb7 wrote:
I am sorry that in view of some that I have started "another thread" on this subject.

I am very new to this forum (the clue is in the red marker on the left) and just finding my way around, and all I could see, on joining, was one thread on this, and a very generous offer by Mustang (i think it was) to build the wheels.

However, I received a very helpful PM from someone and should guide me forward.

I won't post again in any case. It seems I bore people


Hello garry

I'm sorry for my grumpy post yesterday. I must have been having a bad day.

I can assure you it wasn't my intention to put you off posting or give the impression that you were boring!! This forum has been a massive help to me with my builds and I'm sure you'll find it the same.

I'm glad someone has PM'd you with some tips for the wheels. This is my third modelspace build, the others being the two McLaren f1 kits. With each of those there were stages where I stuggled- usually with the exhausts!! Cursing - and the forum helped me on both occasions. The way I see it, there'd be far less satisfaction in completing a build if they were too easy. And the good thing about the partwork format is that if you do completely mess something up, you can always re-order that stage and have another go, something which I've done once or twice. Cool

Good luck with your build, and keep contributing to the forum. Don't let one grumpy old man put you off. I'm harmless really. Blushing
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#15 Posted : 15 May 2017 17:54:52

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Delighted to say I have done it!

The tips on this forum were a great help (and reassuring that I was not alone!) and one big thanks to CKale who PM'd me a very comprehensive guide.

I found putting the B spokes in first then the A helped matters a lot. Also, getting quite sure of myself, removed the remaining masking tape, and found they clicked into place - sometimes... Plus I found standing up while fitting the spokes helped with the assistance of gravity keeping the spoke down while I tried to click it in place. May be rubbish but in my mind it worked.

Just one thing - seem to be missing just one A spoke. I was very careful with my workspace and no clutter, but it is missing. Never mind, I will just put it down to an authentic Jaguar build quality!

Will fit the tyre later. I find putting it in the oven softens it better than hot water from my experience with the Mustang build

Finally - Mr Grumpy - apology accepted BigGrin

Now wine!
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Well done to all.

ovens and rubber tyres worry me Crying please be very very careful with this.

normal practice (watching fingers) is drop the the item into boiling water which is at a temperature that will not damage the part but can burn your fingers (but at the same time make yourself a decent cup of tea).

Ovens equal distraction - phone call, family maybe a young one trying the patience? Burning rubber is not a nice smell so please work with care.

Pleased that you are all sorted because i do know the frustration when things do not go right.

And really pleased that this post ends on a positive BigGrin





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birdaj2 wrote:
Well done to all.

ovens and rubber tyres worry me Crying please be very very careful with this.

normal practice (watching fingers) is drop the the item into boiling water which is at a temperature that will not damage the part but can burn your fingers (but at the same time make yourself a decent cup of tea).

Ovens equal distraction - phone call, family maybe a young one trying the patience? Burning rubber is not a nice smell so please work with care.

Pleased that you are all sorted because i do know the frustration when things do not go right.

And really pleased that this post ends on a positive BigGrin







Health and Safety check! Do not try this at home
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Really glad it's worked for you garrydb7!

Well done for your perseverance. 👍
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Really pleased to hear your problem has been resolved Garry and you are continuing with the build....Cool Cool .. There will always be someone here to assist you if needed, all you need do is ask.....Cool Cool .. Good luck with the rest of the build....

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PM sent to Garry.

I had a problem with missing spokes and am due to receive a replacement issue from CS. As this means I will have spares, I have no problem in sending out replacements if people are missing a couple of 'A' or 'B' spokes from issue 5 until I run out.

Just send me a PM with your address and I'll send them as soon as possible once I have them from CS.

Gary
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