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Side view. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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I scratch built some parts for the torpedo compartment back in November 2015. One of the parts was the deck base that sits underneath the torpedo tubes. I made it from 0.5mm plastic sheet. I took extra time to ensure it was a really accurate fit. This photo shows the deck base prior to fitting. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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This photo shows the deck base being fitted. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Deck base glued in place. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Another view of the deck base. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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This photo shows a close up of the deck base and also a lower strip which acts as a supporting edge to fix the torpedo tube bulkhead too. There is also an upper supporting strip. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Next job was to check the fit of the torpedo tubes into their respective holes. Houston we have a problem! The tubes were also AMP's and of similar material to the bulkhead. Fairly solid in construction but completely out of round! I measured one of the tubes to gauge the oval off-set; the difference between the large and small diameters was 0.7mm on one particular tube! The other was that they were significantly smaller than the cut-outs I had made. The attached photo shows the oval shape of the torpedo tube. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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It was at this juncture that I seriously contemplated making all the tubes from scratch. Problem with that solution is the extra amount of time it would add to the build so I decided to add extra material to the original tubes and file to suit. I started by gluing a 0.5mm strip around each end of the torpedo tubes. Although this didn't resolve the oval problem it did make the diameters large enough so that I could file and fit each tube to the bulkhead, albeit with a tiny gap each side where the narrow diameter is exposed. The attached photo shows the strip fitted to the end of one of the tubes. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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First tube being checked for fit after filing the plastic strip. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Glad to see you got round the tube problem. looking fantastic. Ian Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood. Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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My intention is too fit the torpedo tubes later on the build, allowing me to add extra detail to them freely before refitting. The bulkhead as is offers little strength due to it's depth so I opted to fit a pin to each tube which fits into the vertical strips I mentioned earlier. This photo shows the first pin locating hole drilled through the vertical strip. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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I could then refit the tube, making sure it sat square and drilled a marker using the vertical strip as a guide. This photo shows the pin, which was cut from 1.5mm diameter brass tube, fitted to the end of the first tube. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Tube located with brass pin in place. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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I was happy with this solution as it significantly added strength and provided a positive location for the tube. This photo shows how effective the brass pin has on the fit. No glue at this stage. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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ian smith wrote:Glad to see you got round the tube problem. looking fantastic. Ian Thanks Ian for looking in! Writing it all down it seems so easy in comparison to resolving the oval issue for real. A fair bit of head scratching was involved. Regards, Phil W. Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Looking from the backing sheet side. Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Looking from the backing sheet side. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Checking the tube is sitting square to the bulkhead. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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What with a reasonable intermittent fit of the oval shaped tubes and the brass pin, i wanted to increase the surface area further to ensure that when the tubes are glued they remain strong and robust. I opted to fit three small pieces of square strip around the diameter of the tube base where it sits against the bulkhead. These small supports allow more glue to be applied and thus increase the stability of the torpedo tubes. This photo shows the three supports fitted to the first tube. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Tube test fitted with the supports in place. Sticky Wickett attached the following image(s): Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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