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Jase's beginners ship building tutorial. HM Schooner Pickle Options
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pemberg wrote:
Great tutorial Jase, I'll have to keep it for reference for when I get around to starting mine.

Graeme

Many thanks for taking the time to look in glad you found something useful

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Ratlines

The instructions for the ratlines stats

This stage will require a considerable amount of time and patience but the end result will be its own reward.

ratlines can be a bit time consuming but once your in a rhythm you can rattle them off quite quickly. There is surprisingly little resource in terms of how to tackle ratlines on the web, although quite bit dotted about this forum.

This is my approach to ratlines

First job is to make a spacing guide for the ratlines. use a thick piece of corrugated card for this not paper to thin card, the reason will become clear a bit later. the card should be the full hight of the shrouds and wider than the widest distance across the deadeyes. measure 40mm from the top of the card and raw a line across, mark it as the futtock stave position. then draw lines across the card at 5mm intervals, this will be the ratline positions.

the card is now placed behind the shrouds and held in place with soft clamps

The futtock staves are made from 1mm brass wire, these should be cut longer than the width of the shrouds. use a piece of tape to hold the wire in place, leaving your hands free to tie the wire in place. you can use the futtock stave to spread the shrouds to an equal distance, map pins can be used to hold the shroud line in place, the corrugated card accepts these much better. once tied in place watered down pva should be applied to hold the knots.






The ratlines are made using 0.1mm natural thread. A clove hitch is used to tie the first not of each line. The first ratline should be positioned just above the shroud lanyards,

Cut a length of thread that will give you a little excess. tie on the thread to the first shroud line.



The thread then passes the front of the next shroud line and tucks behind it and stays behind itself.




The thread then passes back behind the shroud



Again the thread passes behind itself but on top of the shroud line



gently pul the thread to form the knot, do not pull to tight as you need to be able to adjust the position of the ratline later.



repeat on the next shroud. not the the last shroud does not have a ratline attached.



if necessary you can use map pins to prevent the ratlines pinching the shrouds together.



use watered down ova to hold the knots once happy with the positions. work you way up to the futtock





.Once done use thinned black paint to 'tar' the ratlines and shrouds, including the futtock stay. us some paper to mask of the model from any paint drops.




you can use the card for the other side. a longer one will be required for the main mast

job done

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Hi Jase,

These ratlines look as though they'll take forever but as you say once you get into a rhythm I suppose it won't be as bad as it looks....

Great tutorial ThumpUp

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Hi May,

many thanks for the kind words, ratlins are great job while in front of the telly BigGrin

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A note on Blackening.

At this stage in the build a number of fine etch bras parts are used in the rigging process. hooks, eyes and brackets that all need to be painted black. Painting these small parts can be problematic. you need to prime them, as well as paint them which can cause a loss in definition of the part. Also there is always the risk that the paintwork can be damaged while being fitted resulting in time needed to touch up the part.

Spray painting can offer a solution to loosing definition, but blackening the parts through a chemical process is an alternative method that some modellers prefer.

There are lots of different blackening products about, so shop around and find a good price. They all work along the same lines, they oxidise the surface giving a blackened aged metal look without loosing any detail.

before you begin the process you will need a respirator, face mask and rubber gloves along with protective goggles, as the chemicals involved are often very corrosive.

Begin by cleaning the parts with white vinegar even the oil from fingers will possibly cause issues if the brass is not cleaned first. I did this by brushing the vinegar on the parts that needed blackening then letting them dry., it is best to leave the parts on their fret to mont larger parts, such as cannons, on jigs.

follow the instructions on your product, in my case the bath of chemicals needed hot water adding to make the reaction begin.

once you have got the depth of blakening you are looking for air dry the parts then rinse in clean water. dispose of the chemical appropriately

The blackening process is quick and easy.




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Ships boats stage 1

The two ships boats supplied with this kit are resin hull, this saves a lot of construction time.

The first thing to do is check the hull for any air bubbles, if you have any fill them before progressing to cleaning up the resin. I found no bubbles in my two boats.

Check the boat to insure it is crisply cast. I found that some sanding was needed at the stern.

IMPORTANT NOTE. when sanding resin you must wear a face mask. it is advisable to sand with wet sand paper to keep down the dust and wash hands straight away. Resin dust is a nasty.




The next stage is to add the internal ribs. this is done using the A4 sheet of black cartridge paper provided. you will need to cut 5 strips across the width of the paper to fully line the inside of the boat. the strips are only 1.5mm wide. a guillotine is a good tool or as I have used a rotary cutting tool against a steel straight edge. ova glue is used to glue the strips in place.




Start by marking the centre point on the stern, place your first strip along the centre of the boat and snip it 3 or 4 mm longer than required, apply glue and position in place ensuring it is fully pressed down. the PVA will grab in about 60-80 seconds so you do have time to adjust the position.




place the first rib as per the instruction again cutting it slightly longer than required to allow for any adjustments. Progress the ribs down one side 3 mm apart. Use a piece of 3mm strip would as a width gauge. its easier to do one side first as you then have all your positions for the other side. The last three ribs at the bow should be spaced at 3mm at the top letting them but up at the keel rib. once the glue is dry use a sharp blade to trim the ribs to length.






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Hi Jase those Ratlines really look great and love the start to the ships boat, its a really good intro to ship buildingBigGrinThumpUp outstandingDroolThumpUp regards PhilCool
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tigerace wrote:
Hi Jase those Ratlines really look great and love the start to the ships boat, its a really good intro to ship buildingBigGrinThumpUp outstandingDroolThumpUp regards PhilCool


Hi Phil,

apologies I missed your post. many thanks for the kind worlds, more comping this week Cool

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Ships boat step 2

There is an internal wood strip that needs to be attached, this will later mount the seat planks. to mount this we first need to add the small 3mm mounting blacks. this have to be fitted 3mm from the boat top and are glued in place with CA glue. I marked off the 3mm depth on a piece of scrap wood to act as a depth gauge.






The wood strip is attached and held in place with pegs while it dried. the end of the strip is cut flus with the rib after it is fixed in place.




The external rubbing strip is added next. the end of the strip that meets the bow will need shaping with a needle file. live the strip slightly longer than required and trim to length after it is set in place. mark out the hight from the top of the boat as per the instructions and mark the depth of the strip along the boat, there is no need to pre bend this strip. The strips is attached with CA glue.





Next task is the floor boards. The ply false board is removed and cleaned up before planking with 3mm x 1mm strip. Once this is done the strip can be cut and sanded with fine sand paper before being given a coat of matt varnish.

Tip. A razor scraper can be used to smooth the deck, this reduces the risk of leaving grain scratches from the sand paper.







Before the Floor boards can be added the boat needs to be painted. the outer hull is predominately white. White tends to be one of the harder colours to paint, it is very unforgiving of any colour underneath. As a result it is best to use a white primer and paint the white hull first, darker colours can be added later.
I used Halfords white primer and Vellejo off white. the primer is a rattle can and the top core was applied with a wide flat brush with three coats.
Inside the hull the same primer was used but Admiralty paint was used for the Yellow Ochre




With the inner hull painted the floor boards can be added using wood glue.



We will finish the boat in the next update.
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Hi Jase,

That ships boat look really good and very awkward to do!

May.
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Nice update!
Greetings,
Walter



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Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

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Thanks both for looking in and your comments.

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Stunning work...Absolute joy to look at...Love ThumpUp
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Ships boats part 3

The final step in the build of the ships boats is adding the stern bench of 1x3mm walnut (Note if you are adding the second ships boat, which mounts inside this one do not add the thwarts).

The stern bench is cut to length and then should be gently sanded at each end to achieve a good fit when sat on top of the rising plank.

The stern sheets are fitted next from 1x4mm walnut. They will rest on the top surface of the rising planks, flush against the forward face of the stern bench, they should terminate 21mm from the transom. Once cut to length you will have to sand these to shape to follow the curve of the hull.




The transom knees can now be added. I found them to be a little thick so sanded them to thin down by 50%. It is advisable to remove the protruding rib to get a flush fit.






If you have not already done so add the row locks at the intervals shown in the instructions, they should be cut to be 1.5mm square




The six thwarts can now be cut to fit from 1x3mm walnut, as per the instructions for placement.
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Rigging Part 1.

The rigging of a ship can look complex and often daunting as a result, however this really is not the case if you work through it in the sequence described in the instructions and follow some simple rules.

To start with it is important to be able distinguish what is what. Ships generally have two types of rigging. 'Standing' and 'Running'. Running rigging is the ringing that is adjusted to sail the ship where as Standard running is essentially fixed. On this model the Standing rigging is black and the running Rigging natural thread. the different thickness of thread represents the rigging strength on the real ship which may be made up of several ropes worked together.

Next it is helpful to understand or be able to identify the many colourful terms applied to different parts of the rigging. There is a huge amount of information in books about this but I would recommend the following link as it is very clear and understandable with excellent illustrations.

http://www.libramar.net/...quare_rig/2017-06-01-48

For the beginner there a a few basics to consider which will be enough to produce a great representation.

1. Read the instructions carefully and refer to the plans to be sure what you are doing
2. If possible look ar reference photos to help understanding
3. all knots should be secured with a small amount of slightly thinned PVA glue (never use CA)
4. do not over tension as this may distort or brake the points it is fixed to.
5. to help keep rising taught use light weights such as a crocodile clip while the glue drys
7. drill out blocks before use to ensure easy passage of thread
8. use a good quality needle treader to thread blocks easily
9. a pair of dress making thread snips are ideal for trimming thread
10. two pairs of fine point tweezers will help with tricky knots.



The instructions with this kit are comprehensive step by step as such I will not be going through the steps in detail but will offer any tips as we navigate through it.

My First Tip is around the Stay mouse. there are a small number required to do this model accurately, However you can omit these with no detrimental effect, which I have done for ease. However if you wish to make a stay mouse than type the following into your search engine and you will find a clever and quick way of doing this

'Novel Way of Making a Stay Mouse'

The Ratlines should be completed before moving onto the rigging as the first step is the tp mast shrouds that interacts with the futtocks.



The topmast shrouds were wrapped around the belaying pint and weighted while drying, ensure they pass behind the futtock after passing through the mast tree holes



Knots on rigging hooks should be glued with thinned PVA before installing. Consider rigging backwards so that the rigging hook is installed first and the rigging is held taught at the other end.



Another tip is to wrap more thread around the fixing point than needed and hold in place with a piece of masking tape while glue drys on the fixing point. once dry remove the tape and tie the knot glue again and trim.



Rigging falls are done in the same way as they are for the shrouds





The Booms should be fixed in place before they are rigged. Clamping them in place while the glue drys is essential. Rig them carefully ensuring that rigging that supports them is done first (as per the instruction sequence)






A good tip for threading the booms is to put the first totted end into the jaw before fitting. put the 8 beads on a needle threader and pull through the thread to load the beads on in one go. thread the other end through the jaw and glue in place. ad the termination not after the glue drys and then trim it.





Below are some photos from my build that may be helpful for reference.












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Please be aware that this topic is under reconstruction to replace lost pictures, there may be some loss of images, if this is the case it will be pointed out in the post and where possible a link will be provided to an alternative image the may help.

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Really is great to watch you do all the riggingDrool excellent work JaseBigGrin ThumpUp regards PhilCool
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tigerace wrote:
Really is great to watch you do all the riggingDrool excellent work JaseBigGrin ThumpUp regards PhilCool



many thanks for looking in Phil

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Doing a great job of the rigging, its such a hard job especially when you cant get at what you want to get at.
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kpnuts wrote:
Doing a great job of the rigging, its such a hard job especially when you cant get at what you want to get at.


many thanks for looking in ken. rigging is done, I enjoy doing the rigging so a bit disappointed Laugh

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