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pemberg wrote:Great tutorial Jase, I'll have to keep it for reference for when I get around to starting mine.
Graeme Many thanks for taking the time to look in glad you found something useful Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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RatlinesThe instructions for the ratlines stats This stage will require a considerable amount of time and patience but the end result will be its own reward.ratlines can be a bit time consuming but once your in a rhythm you can rattle them off quite quickly. There is surprisingly little resource in terms of how to tackle ratlines on the web, although quite bit dotted about this forum. This is my approach to ratlines First job is to make a spacing guide for the ratlines. use a thick piece of corrugated card for this not paper to thin card, the reason will become clear a bit later. the card should be the full hight of the shrouds and wider than the widest distance across the deadeyes. measure 40mm from the top of the card and raw a line across, mark it as the futtock stave position. then draw lines across the card at 5mm intervals, this will be the ratline positions. the card is now placed behind the shrouds and held in place with soft clamps The futtock staves are made from 1mm brass wire, these should be cut longer than the width of the shrouds. use a piece of tape to hold the wire in place, leaving your hands free to tie the wire in place. you can use the futtock stave to spread the shrouds to an equal distance, map pins can be used to hold the shroud line in place, the corrugated card accepts these much better. once tied in place watered down pva should be applied to hold the knots. The ratlines are made using 0.1mm natural thread. A clove hitch is used to tie the first not of each line. The first ratline should be positioned just above the shroud lanyards, Cut a length of thread that will give you a little excess. tie on the thread to the first shroud line. The thread then passes the front of the next shroud line and tucks behind it and stays behind itself. The thread then passes back behind the shroud Again the thread passes behind itself but on top of the shroud line gently pul the thread to form the knot, do not pull to tight as you need to be able to adjust the position of the ratline later. repeat on the next shroud. not the the last shroud does not have a ratline attached. if necessary you can use map pins to prevent the ratlines pinching the shrouds together. use watered down ova to hold the knots once happy with the positions. work you way up to the futtock .Once done use thinned black paint to 'tar' the ratlines and shrouds, including the futtock stay. us some paper to mask of the model from any paint drops. you can use the card for the other side. a longer one will be required for the main mast job done Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Hi Jase, These ratlines look as though they'll take forever but as you say once you get into a rhythm I suppose it won't be as bad as it looks.... Great tutorial May.
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Hi May, many thanks for the kind words, ratlins are great job while in front of the telly Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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A note on Blackening.
At this stage in the build a number of fine etch bras parts are used in the rigging process. hooks, eyes and brackets that all need to be painted black. Painting these small parts can be problematic. you need to prime them, as well as paint them which can cause a loss in definition of the part. Also there is always the risk that the paintwork can be damaged while being fitted resulting in time needed to touch up the part.
Spray painting can offer a solution to loosing definition, but blackening the parts through a chemical process is an alternative method that some modellers prefer.
There are lots of different blackening products about, so shop around and find a good price. They all work along the same lines, they oxidise the surface giving a blackened aged metal look without loosing any detail.
before you begin the process you will need a respirator, face mask and rubber gloves along with protective goggles, as the chemicals involved are often very corrosive.
Begin by cleaning the parts with white vinegar even the oil from fingers will possibly cause issues if the brass is not cleaned first. I did this by brushing the vinegar on the parts that needed blackening then letting them dry., it is best to leave the parts on their fret to mont larger parts, such as cannons, on jigs.
follow the instructions on your product, in my case the bath of chemicals needed hot water adding to make the reaction begin.
once you have got the depth of blakening you are looking for air dry the parts then rinse in clean water. dispose of the chemical appropriately
The blackening process is quick and easy.
jase“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Ships boats stage 1 The two ships boats supplied with this kit are resin hull, this saves a lot of construction time. The first thing to do is check the hull for any air bubbles, if you have any fill them before progressing to cleaning up the resin. I found no bubbles in my two boats. Check the boat to insure it is crisply cast. I found that some sanding was needed at the stern. IMPORTANT NOTE. when sanding resin you must wear a face mask. it is advisable to sand with wet sand paper to keep down the dust and wash hands straight away. Resin dust is a nasty. The next stage is to add the internal ribs. this is done using the A4 sheet of black cartridge paper provided. you will need to cut 5 strips across the width of the paper to fully line the inside of the boat. the strips are only 1.5mm wide. a guillotine is a good tool or as I have used a rotary cutting tool against a steel straight edge. ova glue is used to glue the strips in place. Start by marking the centre point on the stern, place your first strip along the centre of the boat and snip it 3 or 4 mm longer than required, apply glue and position in place ensuring it is fully pressed down. the PVA will grab in about 60-80 seconds so you do have time to adjust the position. place the first rib as per the instruction again cutting it slightly longer than required to allow for any adjustments. Progress the ribs down one side 3 mm apart. Use a piece of 3mm strip would as a width gauge. its easier to do one side first as you then have all your positions for the other side. The last three ribs at the bow should be spaced at 3mm at the top letting them but up at the keel rib. once the glue is dry use a sharp blade to trim the ribs to length. Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Hi Jase those Ratlines really look great and love the start to the ships boat, its a really good intro to ship building outstanding regards Phil COMING SOON =1/72 Italeri diorama`s Battle for the Reichstag and Stalingrad battle at the tractor factory 1/16 Trumpeter King Tiger with loads of extras ON THE GO= refurbishment of 1/25 Tamiya tiger 1 , amt Star trek kits and space 1999 models
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Hi Phil, apologies I missed your post. many thanks for the kind worlds, more comping this week Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Hi Jase, That ships boat look really good and very awkward to do! May.
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Nice update!Greetings, Walter
Present builds: Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48
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Thanks both for looking in and your comments. “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Stunning work...Absolute joy to look at... Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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Please be aware that this topic is under reconstruction to replace lost pictures, there may be some loss of images, if this is the case it will be pointed out in the post and where possible a link will be provided to an alternative image the may help.
Jase“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Really is great to watch you do all the rigging excellent work Jase regards Phil COMING SOON =1/72 Italeri diorama`s Battle for the Reichstag and Stalingrad battle at the tractor factory 1/16 Trumpeter King Tiger with loads of extras ON THE GO= refurbishment of 1/25 Tamiya tiger 1 , amt Star trek kits and space 1999 models
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tigerace wrote:Really is great to watch you do all the rigging excellent work Jase regards Phil many thanks for looking in Phil J “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Doing a great job of the rigging, its such a hard job especially when you cant get at what you want to get at. Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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kpnuts wrote:Doing a great job of the rigging, its such a hard job especially when you cant get at what you want to get at. many thanks for looking in ken. rigging is done, I enjoy doing the rigging so a bit disappointed jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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