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It astounds me how there are so many comments saying 'bullsh-t' and literally defending the drones!
The bl--dy things SHOULD NOT be anywhere near an airport!
Prison for the drone flyers.
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Only a matter of time and something which I'm convinced WILL happen? It's a bit like some idiot throwing bricks across a motorway - sooner or later it's going to kill someone!  
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Do they not have regulation in place over there? They have some here just not sure what extent others then requiring registration if it's over a certian size.
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Metal Mech wrote:Do they not have regulation in place over there? They have some here just not sure what extent others then requiring registration if it's over a certian size. Existing laws are being ignored., more laws are being introduced, including registration, but there will always be those that have no regard for such.
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The AMA produced a nice report about drones.it was very thorough regarding close calls with aircraft.Interesting read; I still see people flying quadcopters over crowds at fairs and festivals.One crashed right in front of me.Luckily it didnt hurt anyone. https://www.modelaircraf...A-Drone-Data_091415.pdf
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All they need to do is to make it law to have a registration encoded in the chip to identify any drone and it's owner . GPS mapping to not allow any drone to enter airports airspace. Also licences the owners. It's a great hobby to have, but let's get responsible, and not have a knee jerk reaction when a tradergy happens. Regards
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Markwarren wrote:All they need to do is to make it law to have a registration encoded in the chip to identify any drone and it's owner . GPS mapping to not allow any drone to enter airports airspace. Also licences the owners.
It's a great hobby to have, but let's get responsible, and not have a knee jerk reaction when a tradergy happens. I agree.In USA the AMA tried to get ahead of this and work with the FAA to prevent overzealous legislation of drones.As the article I posted showed there is a tendency to overstate or exaggerate many of the incidents reported.However, when people do very stupid things with drones it undermines the FAAs calm and thoughtful approach.I think part of the problem is these things are so easy to fly and now are so cheap that some of the flyers have not had any training or time with serious RC flyers to instill good safety rules and conduct.If these people showed up at a flying field they would quickly be schooled about safety. I was in a hobby store once and a guy walked in and wanted to buy a very large gas powered RC helicopter.He had zero experience flying RC aircraft.The salesman had a real hard time dissuading him for spending thousands of dollars on something that he would probably destroy in seconds and possibly hurt himself or others. Carl
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Markwarren wrote:All they need to do is to make it law to have a registration encoded in the chip to identify any drone and it's owner . GPS mapping to not allow any drone to enter airports airspace. Also licences the owners. The UK government has announced plans to introduce drone registration and safety awareness courses for owners of the small unmanned aircraft. It will affect anyone who owns a drone which weighs more than 250 grams (8oz).
However, there is no time frame or firm plans as to how the new rules will be enforced and the Department of Transport admitted that "the nuts and bolts still have to be ironed out".
The drone safety awareness test will involve potential flyers having to "prove that they understand UK safety, security and privacy regulations".
The plans also include the extension of geo-fencing, in which no-fly zones are programmed into drones using GPS co-ordinates, around areas such as prisons and airports.
Registration and geo-fence is fine and dandy for brand new drones which can be dealt with at the point of sale. However, the bigger problem is how to register all those already out there. The responsible owners will be happy to register but many simply won't bother - likley the very same people that ignore the existing regulations which cover all aspects of model flight that R/C aircraft flyers have fought to maintain via the BMFA.
The other problem is that there are many drones out there which are not geo-fence adaptable which would need to be outlawed or adapted if geo-fence is to be a basic requirement of the new law.
The current rules governing the flying of small aircraft such as drones, set down in the UK by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). The basic rules are straightforward and easy to follow, most are based on common sense.
The operation of the aircraft must not endanger anyone or anything.
The aircraft must be kept within the visual line of sight of its remote pilot (the ‘person in charge’ of it). Operations beyond these distances must be approved by the CAA (the basic premise being for the operator to prove that he/she can do this safely).
Small unmanned aircraft (irrespective of their mass), if used for surveillance purposes, are subject to tighter restrictions with regard to the minimum distances that you can fly near people or properties that are not under your control. If you wish to fly within these parameters, permission must be sought from the CAA before surveillance is commenced.
CAA permission is also required for all flights that are being conducted for aerial work (i.e. in very simple terms, you are getting paid for doing so).
The 'remote pilot' has the responsibility for satisfying him/herself that the flight can be conducted safely.
The aircraft must not be flown:
over or within 150 metres of any congested area
over or within 150 metres of an organised open-air assembly of more than 1,000 persons;
within 50 metres of any vessel, vehicle or structure which is not under the control of the person in charge of the aircraft
within 50 metres of any person except during take-off or landing, the aircraft must not be flown within 30 metres of any person except for the person in charge of the aircraft.
Details of UK restricted airspace can be found at www.skydemonlight.com
Careful note should be taken that the collection of images of identifiable individuals, even inadvertently, when using surveillance cameras mounted on a small unmanned surveillance aircraft, will be subject to the Data Protection Act. As this Act contains requirements concerning the collection, storage and use of such images, small unmanned aircraft operators should ensure that they are complying with any such applicable requirements or exemptions.
Further information about the Data Protection Act in which it applies can be obtained from the Information Commissioner’s Office and website: www.ico.org.uk
British Model Flying Association (BMFA)
The BMFA is the the National Governing Body dedicated to the promotion and protection of the sport of model flying at all levels and they represent the interests of model flying. BMFA membership also provides third party insurance for non commercial flying. The BMFA's page 'Lawful First Person View Flying' provides great guidance on applying FPV in a safe and legal (in the UK) way.
http://www.bmfa.org/Info...ngTypes/FirstPersonView(FPV)/tabid/256/Default.aspx
A full list of Civil Aviation Laws applicable to model flying (Air Navigation Order 2009 articles 138, 166 and 167) can be found on the CAA website: www.caa.co.uk/cap393
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