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wallace
#1 Posted : 09 May 2011 16:05:22

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Hi guy's and girls

I'm on the verge of calling it a day as I'm finding the planking extremely difficult and this is my last attempt at trying to understand the planking, so please any help would be appreciated.

I cannot prevent clinkering, no matter what I try, I have made sure the frames are sanded right and I chamfer the planks, but in some cases this makes the clinkering worse, I have even packed out the frames where the clinkering occurs but this is no help as it puts the next layer of planks out too and in some places the clinkering is as deep as the depth of the plank. This model is definitely not for the beginner, not in my case anyway, and I would have quit ages ago if it were not for the fact that I did'nt want to waste the money I had already spent but now I have spent more and I'm still in the same boat with even more money possibly wasted.m I have looked through other people's builds and tried to understand their advice, but to no avail as I'm more of a "learn better with practical tuition" guy so I dont hold out much hope of finishing this model. Thanks for any help offered in this matter.
Wallace.
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#2 Posted : 09 May 2011 16:43:59

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Hi Wallace,

Have you tried chamfering the inside edges of the planks so they sit better with the adjacent planks already fitted?

If not just remember that the planks are 2mm thick and you can get away with a fair bit of sanding. Have you thought about adding a veneer? In my view its a good thing to consider if its your first build.

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#3 Posted : 09 May 2011 16:47:23

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i have got the same problem not quite as bad as you though by the sounds of it, i socked my planks in boiling hot water for about a hour then nail them into position ands leave them for a few days, this gives them time to complete dry into the shape needed,on the ones that i have got problems with there not to bad so hoping to fill and sand them downs smooth. are you painting or varnishing the hull,as painting you shouldnt be able to see any defects. hope this might help this is also my first build like you i have thought of giving up but have perserverd. maybee the more experenced modlers will have other solutions that could help us both??BigGrin
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#4 Posted : 09 May 2011 17:01:11

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Hi Wallace,

I experienced quite a bit of clinkering on my planking & I had also tapered, chamfered, packed our ribs etc Nothing I did seemed to help.

I can't offer you any magic advice to help stop this, however I was surprised how good it looked after sanding.

All I can say is keep going & give it a jolly good sanding & I reckon you'll be pleased with the results and at the end of the day there is always the filler pot & paint!

Keep going it'll be fine!

Wilfy
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#5 Posted : 09 May 2011 19:35:03

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Even with all the expert builders that are on this sight i am sure some clinckering would have occured, so dont be disheartened with the way things are going, just stop have a look a look at other peoples builds and advice thats given on the subject, but if all else fails is there any way you could upload some photos so we could get a better idea of might be happening to offer some more presice advice.

I know its the most difficult part of the build and many of us are now with considerably with alot less hair because of it, but pass this obstical and anything is posible, and it would be a shame you have come so far just to give up.
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#6 Posted : 09 May 2011 19:37:33

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Wallace

Dont give up. I had a terable time with my planking and sufferd from clinkering. but a good sanding ended nup with a half decent result. After seeking advice from others on here and looking at there build diarys i decided to put a 2nd layer on and venear the hull. It now looks a lot beter than i ever thought it would.

Hope you still carry on the build and if you do good luck

Foz
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#7 Posted : 09 May 2011 19:57:41

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Like you I was on the verge of giving in half way through the planking. I followed all the advice but still got a lot of clinkering. However with some good quality filler and sanding I'm really happy(ish) with the final result. I'm now going down the painted route anyway so I'm confident the final result will look fine.
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#8 Posted : 09 May 2011 20:32:04

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I am also a novice builder and TBH I had a reasonable amount of clinkering!

However I looked at the depth of the clinkering and as I still had enough overlap of wood took the option to sand smooth.

I have done it and am VERY happy with the result. Don't be dismayed about it, just give it a sand and then sitback and admire your work!
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#9 Posted : 10 May 2011 10:28:59

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Hi there wallace, I have experienced the same thing on this build, don't give up mate, a bit if filler and a good sanding, be surprised at the end result...Hang in there...
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there is other ways of planking {the pros are cringing}lay four middle plankes extend the thired but do not glue this will guide the 4th plank start the 4th ford plank from the middle letting it bend natural around the bow takeing its own shape with out forceing it in place same with aft plank then work back wards filling in this way when checking the next plank lay it on the one that was last laid it will show how much to take off to fit it, you will find the taper different from the other way
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#11 Posted : 10 May 2011 11:08:26

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Don't give up, it's amazing the results you will get from sanding and filling, my Cutty Sark build has been terrible because of the wood and components supplied, but some filler and some paint has worked wonders. I'm not painting Victory, but looking at the pics in the magazines, I should think even a novice could do a very good job, because of the way the wales go on, so think about painting (not copper plating, as if you are finding planking difficult, this may be a struggle)think how it will look and then decide whether to give up or not, but I think all your woes could be sorted by painting.
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#12 Posted : 10 May 2011 11:23:05

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Dont give up, when you have sanded down the planks you will have a superb model, attached is my build after a good sanding. Believe me there were times when I did not think I could complete the planking but perservere, it is worth the effort.
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#13 Posted : 10 May 2011 11:51:57

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Thanks for all the advice guy's. I will give it another go and see what occurs. Once again thanks for all your help.
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#14 Posted : 10 May 2011 22:11:35

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Good luck wallace My planking wasn't brill but I filled with a view to painting then copper plating. all I can say is don't rush and I found a lot of swearing and a stress toy helpedCool Mellow
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