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hi john,that's too complicated for me,I'll do a deal here,you take me to greece and I'll build it for you.  Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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z8000783 wrote:I need a little help in the form of a favour from someone. I have decided to put together a new jig to use while I plank the lower hull however, I am in the UK for 3 months and my build is in Greece so I need some measurements taken. Here they are and as usual, any other tips very gratefully received.
1. What is the height from row 12 of the planking to the top of rib/frame 15
2. What is the height from row 12 of the planking to the top of rib/frame 26
3. What is the distance between ribs 15 and rib 26
4. What is the width of the ship at the top of rib 15 i.e., distance between the tops of the same rib across the beam
5. What is the width of the ship at the tops of rib 26
I might need some more as I go.
Many thanks.
John
Hi John!  Answer are around about:- 1:- 25mm 2:- 50mm 3:- 451mm 4:- 128mm 5:- 113mm Hope this help you mate!
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Brilliant and many thanks. Tickets for 2 weeks in Greece on their way.
John
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7 days to go and I'll be back looking forward to planking the Hull.
Have been busy in the meantime building a jig to lay the model upside-down. I haven't finished the top planking yet but decided to move on so as not to do any damage to my labours.
Are there any downsides to doing this I am unaware off?
As always thanks guys and I suspect this thread may get busy again over the next few weeks - or months.
John
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Thanks Tomick, looks like no major issues with doing this then.
John
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So at last, have put knife to wood for the first time since February, and finishing of the middle deck gun ports.
Next step will be using my new curling tongs to help plank the hull. Fair bit of work over the next few weeks I think.
I have missed being here and working on her, I must say.
John
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Welcome back John! Your ship has missed you! Good luck with the curling tongs, but don't curl the planks to much, your hull doesn't want a PERM!  I'll look forward to seeing your next pictures mate.
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OK all those ahead of me put down the sails for a moment and take yourself back to last year. I am sure this has been covered but I just want to check before I continue.
Just finishing off cutting out the gun ports on the middle gun deck and have drilled as per the pic. Notice the holes are in the main support strips and not the extensions pieces. They are all 1mm to 2mm below the top. I can see how some are close and would break the top but none are actually in the extension piece.
I am really just looking for confirmation that everything is OK to continue.
Thanks guys.
John
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The extension pieces stop the drilled holes breaking out and appear to be drilled ok, just make sure that the pieces are securely glued so as not to come loose later on when inserting the dummy barrels.
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Thanks Tomick. All solid and OK.
Onwards and upwards.
John
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Just to say I have been busy while away from the ship and to say thanks to Darron (again) for the dimensions. The jig is to help me plank the hull so I had to leave the rest of the top planking for a while. Not the best carpentry in the world but it only cost £2-£3 pounds. Ready for the 'Long Walk' now. John  
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WOW Nice jig  It's a shame I didn't build mine like that :) Good luck with lower hull
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Thanks Tom, have finally made a start, first plank laid.
John
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I have a question way back in ancient history at Issue 32.
It says that you start the lower planking at 18, 17, 16 & 18 again fixing the centre planks and bows.
The first 3 I can follow but surely the last one overlaps the other 3 before the stern planks have been laid as in issue 33.
Am I missing something here?
John
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The first three layers continue down the sides of the hull and the planks extending back to frames 25, 24 and 23; have a look at the photos in my diary build for 32.
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Thanks Tomic, I see now.
On another point, in the instructions it talks about using a dropper very soon after the starting the lower hull, but I don't even need to taper the first plank and probably not the second either.
Looking at Darron's build the first dropper doesn't appear until the 5th and 6th layers and I think mine will be similar.
Just confirming this is OK.
John
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Just as long as you don't forget, because it will come back to haunt later on.
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OK Ta, so long as I let the planks lay straight and then do what required I guess it will be OK.
John
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Just thought I would take a break from planking and work on the barrels for a while. Here's a great little tool for cutting the ends.Not perfect but will look OK once stained I think. Machine Mart   John
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