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Hi, you chose to put the crew in camo? ( which of the german camo patterns is this?) did you have a historical reference for this? I wasn't aware that crews of this nature were ever issued camo unifroms? build looking great btw. Rich.
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Hi rich says in the instructions originally the uniform was field grey and white reversible ,but this was scrapped and changed to 3 colour camo reversible so it white on inside for winter.the inside of hood painted white as it would show with hood down .its the water pattern camo scheme.version I'm doing is 1944 .so it would have been the camo scheme by then.cheers Mick. Builds hms victory, suzuki gsx 1300 R hayabusa, honda C B 750, lamborghini countach L P 500 S, tamiya 1/16 rc full option tiger 1 tank,
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Nice job on the camo painting Mick.Looks great!!
Carl
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mogwai wrote:Hi rich says in the instructions originally the uniform was field grey and white reversible ,but this was scrapped and changed to 3 colour camo reversible so it white on inside for winter.the inside of hood painted white as it would show with hood down .its the water pattern camo scheme.version I'm doing is 1944 .so it would have been the camo scheme by then.cheers Mick.
Sumpfmuster 44 Also Known as Tan and Water 44 First Issue 1944 Used until 1945 Known items Helmet Cover, Reversible winter Parka, Overtrousers, Paratroopers smock and bandoleers, Reversible smock with hood, Apron, Chemical warfare suit, M1944 uniform. Used By Army (Heer), Airforce (Luftwaffe), Paratroopers (Fallschirmjager) This was a very widely used pattern. It is a further development of Sumpfmuster 43. The colours are similar but the pattern is more diffused. The base colour is tan and the overprints are maroon and dark green. not sure crews of this nature were ever issued with this camo. I have a good friend that specialises in german uniforms, he will know for sure I can ask if you like? Rich.
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They look great Mick  what i would say is if its waffen ss they would always get new uniforms equipment first so its a real possability they could have as i did re-enacting the waffen ss for over 10 years and the scope for there uniforms is a lot wider than for the heer who were issued the splinter and tan and water  regards Phil COMING SOON =1/72 Italeri diorama`s Battle for the Reichstag and Stalingrad battle at the tractor factory 1/16 Trumpeter King Tiger with loads of extras ON THE GO= refurbishment of 1/25 Tamiya tiger 1 , amt Star trek kits and space 1999 models
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Hi rich you got exactly the info me got on this uniform,I'm relying on tamiya research into this ,or they would not have put it in the instructions, but be interesting to see what your friend says ,cheers Mick. Builds hms victory, suzuki gsx 1300 R hayabusa, honda C B 750, lamborghini countach L P 500 S, tamiya 1/16 rc full option tiger 1 tank,
built, Mclaren M P 4 - 23. Occre london tram,
Stash.airfix 1/24 mosquito. Diag Virginia schooner, tamiya 1/6 honda 750, tamiya 1/35 famo, tamiya 1/35 flak 88.
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tigerace wrote:They look great Mick what i would say is if its waffen ss they would always get new uniforms equipment first so its a real possability they could have as i did re-enacting the waffen ss for over 10 years and the scope for there uniforms is a lot wider than for the heer who were issued the splinter and tan and water regards Phil SS had reversible camo winter parka, but was in a dot pattern in 44, Im just not sure they issued camo to artillery, but I'll ask my Freind who is a leading expert in such things, he will know for sure. Rich.
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mogwai wrote:Hi rich you got exactly the info me got on this uniform,I'm relying on tamiya research into this ,or they would not have put it in the instructions, but be interesting to see what your friend says ,cheers Mick. How about some photo evidence 2 pictures showing the crew in reversible camo - shot from the front does appear to be pattern 44 too - so its a big thumbs up from my expert in germany he did say its rather rare though and the most common was the grey. hope this helps Rich TRGRichie attached the following image(s):
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Hi rich thanks for pics ,and your time looking into this,just glad the camo ok .cheers Mick.  Builds hms victory, suzuki gsx 1300 R hayabusa, honda C B 750, lamborghini countach L P 500 S, tamiya 1/16 rc full option tiger 1 tank,
built, Mclaren M P 4 - 23. Occre london tram,
Stash.airfix 1/24 mosquito. Diag Virginia schooner, tamiya 1/6 honda 750, tamiya 1/35 famo, tamiya 1/35 flak 88.
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mogwai wrote:Hi rich thanks for pics ,and your time looking into this,just glad the camo ok .cheers Mick. Was a pleasure mate, I spend a lot of my time colourising ww2 images, I have a few Facebook pages devoted to it, so I would have put money on them not having that camo, even my german expert friend was surprised to find they did, like he said quite rare, but it is ok to paint them like that :) Glad I could help Rich
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loving the Camo. build looking great Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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Hi thanks to all who looked in and left comments much appreciated, unfortunately my camera on phone went up it,and by time got it fixed I'd finished this,so sorry it's lousy diary, all I can say is this is a great kit with no fit issues at all, and a pleasure to make. Cheers mick mogwai attached the following image(s): Builds hms victory, suzuki gsx 1300 R hayabusa, honda C B 750, lamborghini countach L P 500 S, tamiya 1/16 rc full option tiger 1 tank,
built, Mclaren M P 4 - 23. Occre london tram,
Stash.airfix 1/24 mosquito. Diag Virginia schooner, tamiya 1/6 honda 750, tamiya 1/35 famo, tamiya 1/35 flak 88.
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Looking good Mick Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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