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#61 Posted : 13 June 2011 15:39:39

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Have finaly finished one side in venear. After taking all the advice on board and checking other posts i went ahead with double planking to try and get a better result. However, it still did not turn out right but hey its forst time so will let you lot decide, if you make any comments that is.






All coments are welcome.

Foz
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#62 Posted : 13 June 2011 16:09:45

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Coming on well
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#64 Posted : 13 June 2011 18:38:28

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Nice one!

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#68 Posted : 14 June 2011 08:38:52

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#69 Posted : 14 June 2011 19:48:21

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Thanks for all the great comments, its really appreciated. Cant wait now till i get back home some time on friday to get back to it.

Thinking of putting the other builds on hold now and just concentrate oh the Vic, but ill see.

Once again

Thanks

Foz
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#70 Posted : 18 June 2011 12:14:25

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Well at long long last i have finaly finished the second planking and can carry on with the build. The planking did not go to plan but for my forst build i am pleased with how it is turning out.





So now on to part 40.

Thnaks for all the help and comments guys.

Foz
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#71 Posted : 18 June 2011 12:53:24

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#72 Posted : 18 June 2011 13:08:01

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Great attempt for a first build, though unsure if your aware it look's like you've got a twist crept in.

Have a good look at the 2nd front to back photo and the lie of the stern frame compared with the lie of bulkhead planking; the stern frame appears to fall towards the left, giving the impression of the deck at the stern on the right side being higher than the left side.
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#73 Posted : 18 June 2011 13:49:21

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Mr T.

Thanks for that i had not noticed. Perhaps thats why when i try the false decks on the gallry part in issue 40 that dont touch. So any one got any ideas aprt from scraping it and starting again.

Any help is much appreciated.

Foz
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#74 Posted : 18 June 2011 14:47:48

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foz,sorry to see the twist,have to agree with the o holy one on this,how do you feel about it,
this is what I'd do,order up some wood 5x2's,spray water over the entire planking inside and out several times,it should come apart quite easily,starting with the decks,then the planking,keep spraying as you go,and strip down to the framework.you will need a jig and then straighten out by spraying the frame joints,a lot of work i know,or just carry on and show from side only,I feel for you,it has happened to me but not so late on into the build,
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#75 Posted : 18 June 2011 15:13:48

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Hi Karl.

At this moment in time it feels C**P as i have put a lot of work in to it. I think if i strip everthing down i may not have the heart to go on with it and then its a lot of money and time wasted.

As i have allready decided on how the builds are going to be diplayed, only one side will be seen so any one that comes to my place will not know how badley i messed up.

So will make the most now of a bad start.

Foz
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I wouldn't go as far as scrapping, but it's going to be a headache to sort, but it must be sorted if the gallery is to sit square, the worrying thing is that the deck also rises at the right-hand side which suggests the problem could be deep seated.

You first need to get the model sat square and look at the problem from all angles before doing anything, then explore as to what the cause might be, and establish how much the stern frame needs to be brought back into alignment

It could be as simple as adding/removing material on the frame ledge, or it could be a major chop job.

The ledge of the frame needs to be level and square with the ship, just how far out it is can be checked using the lower deck of the gallery, also check that the height of the gallery panels do sit too low/high, you can then start looking at adding/removing material from the edge of the frame to get its edge level and square with the ship.

That said, I suspect the twist problem is likely deep seated, possibly having planked onto a twisted frame; and therefore as Karl says, the safest route may be to strip back to a point where it can be resolved at source; failing that a tinkering fix such as that described above which will need to be carefully performed; but regardless of how you wish to display your model, the problem needs to be put right or at least improved, otherwise your going to have major fit problems with the gallery panels.
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#77 Posted : 18 June 2011 17:30:48

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Thanks for the comments guys.

After having a good look at the build, it looks to me as the last 2 frames are the problem.

As money is short i can not afford to strip the planking and start again so what you think of this idea.

If on the last few frames and the stern are i build one side up up should make things square when i add the gallery and also the planking of the decks.

And once again thanks for your help.

Foz
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#78 Posted : 18 June 2011 19:11:09

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give it a go foz,and I know you can sort it,if you were nearer I would help you out,but best of luck,and please don't give up,If it helps I can send you some wood,just let me know what you need.
I'm sure some of the lads here would chip in with a few sticks.
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#79 Posted : 18 June 2011 19:33:34

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Confused last few frames Confused

i've got spare ribs for the Vic if required

if i knew the number of the ribs required i can check to see if i can help

might as well give them to someone who needs them rather than them sitting in my shed for eternity or being turned into sanding blocks

Taking a step back

your planking looks good to me
is the problem the indent

can that be filled even

then plank again over it with veneer
evenly doing 1 plank port 1 plank stbd

at less than a mill thicker shouldn't put the rest of the build out

just a thought
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#80 Posted : 18 June 2011 20:22:16

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Hi Foz! Crying

Sorry to find out about the problem at the stern, it took me some time looking on the big screen I think I know what's happened, if I'm right I might be able to help you mate!. I need a little time to work out if there is away to correct the problem without taking it all apart. You will need to remove the back of the deck but not yet.
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