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#61 Posted : 18 May 2018 09:33:43

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Not quite there I'm afraid Phil, you are very close though.....

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#62 Posted : 18 May 2018 09:35:37

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Good effort Gray but some of your answers are not what we're looking for I'm afraid......

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#63 Posted : 18 May 2018 09:47:15

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Come on people, i really want to see someone win this with ALL 6 answers correct. It's a great prize, and deserves to go to a worthy winner BigGrin

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#64 Posted : 18 May 2018 16:12:29

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Q1
(a ) Tuesday July 26th 1938 at a meeting chaired by Air Vice Marshall W. Sholto Douglas, Assistant Chief of the Air Staff

(b) paper 16

Q2
(a) upkeep

(b) 120 total with 60 of these used for practice

(c) lifting the tail of the Lancaster into the air by 10 ton Coles crane and then wheeling the bomb on its trolley in from the rear.

(d) Torpex

Q3
(a) At 21:28 hours the first aircraft of the second wave (AJ-E) started its take off run. As the second wave was taking a northerly route to the targets they had a longer flight path and consequently left the ground before the first wave.

(b) Munro's aircraft lost its radio to flak and turned back over the IJsselmeer

(c) 1 - four of the five aircraft that made up the second wave never made it to the Sorpe. American Flight Lieutenant Joe McCarthy flying AJ-T did make it however, despite the delay caused by the swap to the reserve aircraft. The bombs were not spun up.

(d) Rice finds it hard to judge the height of the Lancaster. His flight engineer is just about to warn him that the altimeter is showing zero when there is a violent bang. The Upkeep hanging underneath hits the water and is ripped out of the bomb bay, smashing into the tail-wheel and sending the wreckage up into the plane’s Elsan chemical toilet. ‘Christ! It’s wet back here!’ rear gunner Stephen Burns shouts, almost drowning in the seawater and chemicals from the toilet filling his turret as the aircraft climbs steeply.

Q4
(a) (G) suffix codes meaning that when on the ground they were to be guarded by an armed guard at all times.

(b) Military Power, 1,240 horsepower at 3,000 r.p.m. at 11,000 feet (3,353 meters); and 1,300 horsepower at 3,000 horsepower with 54.3 inches of manifold pressure (1.84 Bar) for Takeoff. so 4960hp at 11,000 ft

(c) fitting of front gunner stirrups to keep his feet out of the bomb aimers face


Q5
(a) In January 1944 the Squadron moved to Woodhall Spa possibly to give them greater security and 619 squadron which had been based at Woodhall replaced them at Conningsby

(b) The airfield was also known as Brattleby and Brattleby Cliff

(c) 4 March 1945
The No. 617 Squadron RAF Avro Lancaster of Squadron Leader CC Calder dropped the first Grand Slam bomb from 11,965 ft (3,647 m) on the Schildesche viaduct.[14] A large section of the Bielefeld viaduct collapsed

Q6
(a) Mk.III "Dambuster" and Mk.I "Grand Slam Bomber"

(b) 5 figures

(c) Parts for two Merlin engines are included
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#65 Posted : 18 May 2018 16:38:25

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Really good effort Rich but not all your answers are correct.... You're close though....

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#66 Posted : 18 May 2018 17:50:35

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Gandale wrote:
Really good effort Rich but not all your answers are correct.... You're close though....

Regards

Alan


Oh beggar, was pretty sure I was on the money! Would be nice to know what I got wrong? And what happens now to the prize with no winner?

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#67 Posted : 18 May 2018 18:00:42

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This competition is now closed and we'd like to thank all those who took the time take part, well done to all the entrants. The first 5 questions were taken from the official Dambusters Website:

http://www.dambusters.org.uk/

The final questions was taken from Tamiya's Website:

http://www.tamiya.com/en...ter_grandslam/index.htm


Here are the answers you needed:


Question 1

a. Tuesday 26th July 1938, chaired by Air Vice Marshall W. Sholto Douglas, Assistant Chief of the Air Staff.

b. Paper number 16.


Question 2

a. Upkeep

b. 120 bombs in total were ordered. 60 filled with explosives and 60 with concrete

c. Novel solution was found in the form of lifting the tail of the Lancaster into the air by a 10 ton Coles crane and then wheeling the bomb on its trolley in from the rear.

d. Torpex


Question 3


a. The second wave (AJ-E) . The second wave was taking a northerly route to the targets, they had a longer flight path and consequently left the ground before the first wave.

b. AJ-B piloted by Flight Lieutenant W.Astell were flying as low as they could to avoid the flak and search lights, but hit high tension wires and pylons 4km from Marbech.

c. One aircraft made it to the Sorpe. The bomb was dropped without it spinning.

d. Sgt Burns. Pilot misjudged his height and touched the sea. The aircraft was engulfed in water that had run into rear and ran out of the back almost drowning Sgt Burns, the rear gunner.


Question 4

a. The aircraft produced were given (G) suffix codes meaning that when on the ground they were to be guarded by an armed guard at all times.

b. 1640 horse power each. Total 4 x 1640 = 6560 horse power.

c. To keep his feet out of the bomb aimers face.


Question 5

a. Moved from RAF Conningsby to Woodhill Spa, they were replaced by 619 Squadron.

b. The airfield was also known as Brattleby and Brattleby Cliff

c. Woodhill Spa and helped to destroy a viaduct in Bielefeld.


Question 6

a) 5

B) PD119 YZ/J, No.617 Squadron Lancaster B Mk.I Special and ED932 AJ/G, No.617 Squadron Lancaster B Mk.III Special

c) 2


The first person to post the most correct answers and to be declared the winner of this competition is Delboy271155, aka Derek. Congratulations Derek, your prize will be with you soon.

Well done to all...

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#68 Posted : 18 May 2018 18:06:46

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Congratulations on getting the most answers correct Cool well done Derek ThumpUp. Hope to see what you make of her

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Well done Derek, a fiercely fought competition Cool
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Well done Derek,

Also could I ask about 2 of the questions please,

the grand slam question? The date you gave was it wrong?

Also question 3b, the question asks for first casualty, did you actually mean the first lives lost?


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#72 Posted : 18 May 2018 18:41:44

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Congratulations Derek it's a great prize BigGrin and well done Alan for some great questions.

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TRGRichie wrote:
Well done Derek,

Also could I ask about 2 of the questions please,

the grand slam question? The date you gave was it wrong?

Also question 3b, the question asks for first casualty, did you actually mean the first lives lost?


Rich.


Hi Rich,

Grand Slam question - no the date I gave was not wrong. This is quoted from the Dambusters Website, this page - http://www.dambusters.or...airfields/woodhall-spa/

On 14 Mar 1944 an aircraft from Woodhall Spa dropped the first 22 000lb Grand Slam bomb in anger, helping to destroy the viaduct at Bielefeld.


On Question 3b, again quoted from this page of the Dambusters Website - www.dambusters.org.uk/th...ids/the-raid-first-wave/

Lieutenant W.Astell were flying as low as they could to avoid the flak and search lights, but hit high tension wires and pylons 4km from Marbech. The aircraft reared up in the air, burst into flames, but then crashed to the ground. Two minutes later the mine exploded and all seven crew were killed. Operation Chastise had claimed its first casualties.

Hope this helps to clarify...

Regards

Alan



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Wow,Blink Blushing

That was a tough one. Reminds me of my school day exams " Read the question fully and make sure you answer all parts to get maximum marks".

Amazing that`s still in my head 45 years later LOL LOLbut still made one slip-up. DOH

Many thanks for all the Congrats and thanks also to Alan for setting a great set of questions. Cool Cool

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Congrats Derek. Good prize to win. Hope you enjoy building it.

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Well done Derek, I looked at the questions and just didn't have a clue, or where to look.

Congratulations Cool

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Gandale wrote:
TRGRichie wrote:
Well done Derek,

Also could I ask about 2 of the questions please,

the grand slam question? The date you gave was it wrong?

Also question 3b, the question asks for first casualty, did you actually mean the first lives lost?


Rich.


Hi Rich,

Grand Slam question - no the date I gave was not wrong. This is quoted from the Dambusters Website, this page - http://www.dambusters.or...airfields/woodhall-spa/

On 14 Mar 1944 an aircraft from Woodhall Spa dropped the first 22 000lb Grand Slam bomb in anger, helping to destroy the viaduct at Bielefeld.


On Question 3b, again quoted from this page of the Dambusters Website - www.dambusters.org.uk/th...ids/the-raid-first-wave/

Lieutenant W.Astell were flying as low as they could to avoid the flak and search lights, but hit high tension wires and pylons 4km from Marbech. The aircraft reared up in the air, burst into flames, but then crashed to the ground. Two minutes later the mine exploded and all seven crew were killed. Operation Chastise had claimed its first casualties.

Hope this helps to clarify...

Regards

Alan





erm...
http://www.dambusters.or...e-dams/raids/bielefeld/
the same website agrees with me here....

and again I ask are you using the word casualty to mean the deaths of crew? rather then the correct meaning of the word?

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TRGRichie wrote:
Gandale wrote:
TRGRichie wrote:
Well done Derek,

Also could I ask about 2 of the questions please,

the grand slam question? The date you gave was it wrong?

Also question 3b, the question asks for first casualty, did you actually mean the first lives lost?


Rich.


Hi Rich,

Grand Slam question - no the date I gave was not wrong. This is quoted from the Dambusters Website, this page - http://www.dambusters.or...airfields/woodhall-spa/

On 14 Mar 1944 an aircraft from Woodhall Spa dropped the first 22 000lb Grand Slam bomb in anger, helping to destroy the viaduct at Bielefeld.


On Question 3b, again quoted from this page of the Dambusters Website - www.dambusters.org.uk/th...ids/the-raid-first-wave/

Lieutenant W.Astell were flying as low as they could to avoid the flak and search lights, but hit high tension wires and pylons 4km from Marbech. The aircraft reared up in the air, burst into flames, but then crashed to the ground. Two minutes later the mine exploded and all seven crew were killed. Operation Chastise had claimed its first casualties.

Hope this helps to clarify...

Regards

Alan





erm...
http://www.dambusters.or...e-dams/raids/bielefeld/
the same website agrees with me here....

and again I ask are you using the word casualty to mean the deaths of crew? rather then the correct meaning of the word?



The date is not the issue here even though two differing dates appear on the website. The question asked for the name of the airfield they flew from and what did it help to destroy. You failed to name the airfield in your answer.

As for the word casualty, I think the answer I've already given makes it clear...

Regards

Alan
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