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ronald305
#1 Posted : 02 July 2018 14:59:25

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sorry I forgot to mention when I placed a piece of plank simulating plank # 5
at the end of the gallery support the supports brackets sit a tiny fraction above the plank I know I'm suppose to sand down the ends to match the supports
later
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#2 Posted : 02 July 2018 17:33:44

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Hi Ronald, it doesn't look to me like you have a problem. Just to be sure can you take a couple of pics of the stern looking square on rather than from the side.....Cool Cool

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#3 Posted : 02 July 2018 19:29:03

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Hi Alan thanks you mean straight from the back looking forward from the stern yes I can do that will it help do you want me to add the small piece of planking on the port side or add a second piece on the starboard side as well and then take a picture
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#4 Posted : 02 July 2018 19:55:01

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HI Alan
well you will not believe this when I added a piece to the starboard side and look at them the support gallery from the back before I took two photos of it
I notice only the port side is where the plank is off by a sliver the starboard side is correct meaning the piece of plank is sitting a little higher like it suppose to
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#5 Posted : 02 July 2018 20:43:17

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Thank Ronald.

I have a concern that your rib 30 has not been fully seated into its slot in the keel and need you to check this out. Can you lay a strip along the deck supports of your ribs as shown by the two upper red lines on my attached pic.... The strip should lay smoothly between all of the ribs without any sharp turn upwards.

Notice the position of the join on frame 30, (highlighted by the red circle) the position in relation to the gallery supports. Compare this with the pic I've attached from the instructions and also the 8th pic on Stage 18 of the official build. Your rib 30 looks to be a little too high so we need to be sure.
Let me know what you find.

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#6 Posted : 02 July 2018 22:24:22

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Hi Alan
rib # 30 is seated all the way down sir,but I did notice the two end ribs 32 & 33 of the gallery supports will not touch the straight piece of wood I'm using
for a straight edge and the 5 ribs inside do touch the straight edge, also the gap on the left side closes to the end rib is very close what you think sand the
ribs inside to match the outside ribs, thing is I do not see any ribs turning up wards Ronald


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#7 Posted : 02 July 2018 22:30:02

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HI Alan
what I said in the last message about the two on the left side it's like the first photo you showed me with the red line going across and showing two gaps on the left two ribs
Ronald
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Ok Ronald, if you're sure rib 30 is seated all the way down in its slot then that's fine. If its not it will become very apparent much later in the build when you come to fit the gallery itself. Something we will keep a look out for as you progress through the build. Reason I brought it up is that it is an area of the build that has caught a lot of builders out so thought it best to be sure.

As for the position of the supports and your hull planks, I see nothing to be concerned about so you can carry on with the next stage of the build. I would strongly recommend you now post up pics regularly on your diary to show your progress as you go along rather than wait until you have a problem. If I can follow your progress then it would help to identify potential problems early....

Look forward to seeing your progress...

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#9 Posted : 03 July 2018 00:17:10

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yes I understand I made sure all of the ribs were down and snug against the false keel before I glued them but want about planks #5 as I mention the right side is good but the left side the planks is suppose to be like the right, do I
tilt the plank up a tad to match the right side but when I do that there will be a gap in between plank 4 & 5 as putting photos up I will to remember to do that will use my phone for that
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#10 Posted : 03 July 2018 00:39:46

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I have a question it's mentioned in the instructions that since the tops of both #5 planks sit above the level of the supports that they will be sanded down later
my question is are they sanded down flush to the supports if so since the left plank is dawn near close to flush the supports them only the right plank will
need to be sanded flushed with the support an I correct if so that is what you meant when you said the back part looks ok and to continue with the build
Ronald
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If you are sure rib 30 is fully seated, there are no twists then carry on and add the next row of planks as per the instructions. Do not sand the gallery supports down at this stage, leave as is. Keep posting your diary to assist me in keeping track of your progress....

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#12 Posted : 03 July 2018 14:02:04

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yes I know that but can you tell me if I am correct or not from my last question I asked, I will not do any more work on the model until I hear from you ok
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#13 Posted : 04 July 2018 13:54:25

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Yes Ronald, you are correct but the instructions don't say to sand down the strips just yet, just leave as they are and continue with planking the next rows and posting pics on your diary as you go....

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#14 Posted : 04 July 2018 14:59:22

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the strips ? not the support strips you mean I mean the # 5 planks the instructions say to sand the planks down much later page 127 part 6 I don't what
strips you mean don't worry I'm not going to sand anything until I'm told to do so
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#15 Posted : 04 July 2018 15:22:07

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Ok Alan
I understand I know not to sand the planks at this time will be done later
just wanted to make sure but when I am called to sand them there will not be much sanding to the left #5 plank compared to the right #5 plank but ok
Ronald
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Hi Ronald. There can be a number of reasons as to why the 5th plank on the left side is lower than the same plank on the right side. Could be slight variances in the widths of the planks, a slightly different starting point of your first plank laid on the left side compared to the right side. Could also be a slight twist in the hull or it could be rib 30 has not been seated fully into its slot.

You have already confirmed there is no twist and that rib 30 is fully seated. That can only leave the slight variances in the width of the planks or a slightly different starting point of the first plank laid on either side. The 5th plank on your left side may not require as much sanding down compared to the right side and we can deal with that when you get to that stage, hence why I say you can carry on planking the hull and posting pics up regularly.

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#17 Posted : 04 July 2018 22:54:05

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yes I had also thought of that to that the planks may be of different widths
I will try to send photos of the progress when I'm done with the sixth plank the bow may not be pretty looking because it is the hardest part of the build to do you will see later
Ronald
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